From jsailing at netonecom.net Fri Apr 11 11:03:51 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Fri Apr 11 11:02:03 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Japan's Anime Ambassador In-Reply-To: <21461133.1206462905928.JavaMail.root@m03> References: <21461133.1206462905928.JavaMail.root@m03> Message-ID: <47FF7DD7.2070102@netonecom.net> Bruce Young wrote: > Nominate your choice for spreading joy and subby boys across the world! Hrm. Since Kamui's toothbrush wouldn't be able to resist the urge to dominate him, he could keep everyone very very busy at the UN. And happy! Maybe a bit bloody, but HAPPY! I suppose nothing would ever get done, not counting Kamui, so the next question would be whether or not this would be a bad thing. -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From avantpop at hotmail.com Fri Apr 11 13:05:26 2008 From: avantpop at hotmail.com (Mike Hemmingson) Date: Fri Apr 11 13:05:33 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] My cover story at the San Diego Reader In-Reply-To: <47FF7DD7.2070102@netonecom.net> References: <21461133.1206462905928.JavaMail.root@m03> <47FF7DD7.2070102@netonecom.net> Message-ID: To read -- http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2008/apr/09/cover/ _________________________________________________________________ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.netonecom.net/pipermail/cpaod-discuss/attachments/20080411/895210f7/attachment.htm From jsailing at netonecom.net Tue Apr 15 12:19:35 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Tue Apr 15 12:19:45 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] My cover story at the San Diego Reader In-Reply-To: <29857804.1207933791074.JavaMail.root@m03> References: <21461133.1206462905928.JavaMail.root@m03> <47FF7DD7.2070102@netonecom.net> <29857804.1207933791074.JavaMail.root@m03> Message-ID: <4804D597.7000407@netonecom.net> Mike Hemmingson wrote: > To read -- > > http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2008/apr/09/cover/ Great article... I always loved your articles like this. I probably have a decent idea of what D. was talking about with Orange County and L.A. When I was a teen, they were extremely gang oriented areas. You didn't need to be in a gang, but you did need to be able to get along with some of them. Kind of hang out with them. I'm sure tons has changed over the past couple of decades, but the overall structures have a way of staying the same. Or at least similar. I think it was probably easy for me because I was a girl, and a lot of guys were protective of me, including the very old school AND Scandinavian import leader of one of the gangs in the area. Many gangs would actually hang out with each other, there'd be cross-over. And lots of other people in general. There was the crowd from a garage I slept in once (lots of people slept there, big garage), there were crowds from all around, there was a group home right down the street. One of the girls in the group home was in one of the gangs, so it was easy enough for everyone else there to hang out by default. So there were always tons of gangs, and tons of friends of gangs, and plenty of gangs hung out with each other, but different types of gangs would get into wars with each other. You would have days when you would see everyone walking around with good ol' big stick equivalents (serves as a clear "I am armed and ready" warning) and sometimes during stretches like that I would be located (I had a job at a nearby retail clothing store for a while) and warned that I shouldn't wander around unattended and unarmed... Though I always had a 12" dagger on me. I didn't have a big stick so, you know, defenseless looking girl. ;) It was funny, it seems like I had to learn every way to shuffle that dagger off me and out of sight for cop searches. I carried it because there were too many creeps out there, not because of any gang issues. But it's easy to see how the whole association with gangs and their general political violent turmoil would be a drag for people. Probably better to only have to deal with your own fights, and not fights based on gang politics, a lot of the time. Maybe the only reason I didn't mind was because I was weak and felt better with a lot of protective people around. Or maybe the general circumstances of life made me feel better not being on my own with things, though I sometimes was in bad situations anyway. Could just have friends for that, in other areas. I've been curious about what the Denver street life is like now. I know a lot more about what it used to be like. Denver was never quite as structured, I think, because it isn't prime territory for street life. Cold Winters! You really NEED to find places to stay here, in California the nights can get cold but if you can find a blanket you're okay. Just wear a lot of layers, I tended toward t-shirt + flannel + jacket. Doesn't work here. Even when I was older, if I got stranded I needed to luck into finding a place to stay for the night (the last time was when I was 19 or 20 and wandering confused on the streets, wondering what to do, and happened to meet a guy who was staying in a place with probably at least 20 odd people sleeping on the floor... I always did have that charmed luck, I guess, counters all of my atrocious luck!). Crash pads were always popular if you could find one and get an invite in. What makes me curious right now is that there seems to be something of an organized hovel system here now. Hovels made around parks, I think... Sadly I had a good chance to ask a lot of questions last October, but I was too drunk to think of it at the moment. I had walked out of a bar for a cigarette and wound up talking to a guy who claimed he was only kicked out because he lost his ID (note that I'm not saying I believe this, he looked young and I said all of the same things when I was young... it was funny, he even claimed about the same age I did when I was under-age). He wanted me to go back to the hovel he was staying at. Um, no... Heh. Not too seemly for a 30-something Mom. ;) Easy to suspect I wouldn't have made it back safely anyway. But I do regret not asking more about it. ={ I suppose I was too busy arguing with him about why he shouldn't want to have sex with me. ;) Food was always a tried and true method for getting people to sit around and talk for a while. Everyone likes to assume that all pan-handlers really only want booze and drugs and cigarettes... and they probably do, but they also tend to want food. When I was in CA, there was a guy I hung out with some. He was 19, but still on the streets and used to the life. He was old! ;) Also very charming, though. Pockets full of girls phone #s, that he once burned in front of me, heh (I was one who got away), and if he pan-handled he could get people handing him $20. One time we were out pan-handling together, and a woman took us to the closest fast food place for a meal. She was curious, I think, used it as a good chance to sit there asking questions and talking. Maybe adults will decline a food offer, but kids often won't... even if they evade like mad during the conversations (I sure did!). I also liked people who would buy cigarettes or do a food trip through a convenience store or whatever. And I never knew anyone young who didn't like it as well. I remember one time in a crash pad here, right around my 16th birthday, right when I came back from CA, we were pan-handling (wanted booze, but hey) at a 7-11 and a couple took us in to shop. We were all so happy and so thoroughly confused, balking at getting all of the food we wanted... they kept needing to hand more and more to us. We were like excited kids told to rum amok in a toy store, but we also felt very insecure and greedy. So, sure, we had wanted worse things, but it was such a feeling of heaven to be told to go in there and buy all of the food we wanted. Someone does the smart thing, and you don't know how to deal with it because normally they just give you change or a few bucks to get rid of you. Initially none of us could pick ANYTHING out, they had to pick a lot of what we got for us... Sad to see the part where the ones who don't really need anything call church people stupid. Church people can be great. There was one church in CA where I was basically found looking like a ragged mess in the parking lot, so I was brought in for pizza and we played hangman. I still remember getting "superstitious" as soon as the first letter (s) was in place. They were impressed! I thought they were terribly nice. I also felt awkward because I'd kind of desecrated their church Sunday school trailer by having sex in it earlier that morning (didn't want to, hated the guy it happened with, but I still felt bad about it), and there they were being so nice to sacrilegious me. Far from the first time. First time was probably when I was 10 or younger and a friend and I got lost at a flea market. A couple with a trailer gave us money for food and let us hang out in their trailer, listening to Christian music on their little transistor radio. People like that aren't being stupid. They know they might not be appreciated, they know they might be stabbed in the back (even literally), they're being decent and should be appreciated. I always remembered anyone who did anything like that. Even down to, say, a man who bummed my last cigarette and when he noticed it was the last cigarette a raggy looking kid had he sent me in to buy a carton for myself. Boy was that ever good karma. ;) (Except in that I regret being a smoker!) When Mike mentioned letting those 2 into his apartment, my first thought was that I would be terribly paranoid about doing that. But I guess he wound up terribly paranoid about it, too. So I think that's a good demonstration of how stupid people are not being, they know it's dangerous and thankless and they still do it anyway. All of his paranoid checking for cars and everything for a long time afterward probably sums up how stupid many people are NOT. So they're getting suckered by the ones who don't really need help, but that's better than blowing off all of the ones who do. They know there are plenty who will sucker them, but it's like assuming all pan-handlers are off to buy a bottle or crack. The ones who aren't going to do that can't get anything. So... offer to buy a burger for someone if you can manage it, and see who takes off. Well. I guess that finally got me rambling a bit. ;) -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From avantpop at hotmail.com Tue Apr 15 16:00:15 2008 From: avantpop at hotmail.com (Mike Hemmingson) Date: Tue Apr 15 16:00:31 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] My cover story at the San Diego Reader In-Reply-To: <4804D597.7000407@netonecom.net> References: <21461133.1206462905928.JavaMail.root@m03> <47FF7DD7.2070102@netonecom.net> <29857804.1207933791074.JavaMail.root@m03> <4804D597.7000407@netonecom.net> Message-ID: Thanks! This is great commentary -- can you, if ou can, post it in the comets section on the Reader page...you will have to make an account, but it's easy and free....more comemnts helps me in getting more assignemnts, ib which I get money to feed my two cats... Michael Hemmingson > Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:19:35 -0600 > From: jsailing@netonecom.net > To: cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net > Subject: Re: [Cpaod-discuss] My cover story at the San Diego Reader > > Mike Hemmingson wrote: > > To read -- > > > > http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2008/apr/09/cover/ > > Great article... I always loved your articles like this. > > I probably have a decent idea of what D. was talking about > with Orange County and L.A. When I was a teen, they were > extremely gang oriented areas. You didn't need to be in > a gang, but you did need to be able to get along with some > of them. Kind of hang out with them. I'm sure tons has > changed over the past couple of decades, but the overall > structures have a way of staying the same. Or at least > similar. > > I think it was probably easy for me because I was a girl, > and a lot of guys were protective of me, including the very > old school AND Scandinavian import leader of one of the gangs > in the area. Many gangs would actually hang out with each > other, there'd be cross-over. And lots of other people in > general. There was the crowd from a garage I slept in once > (lots of people slept there, big garage), there were crowds > from all around, there was a group home right down the street. > One of the girls in the group home was in one of the gangs, > so it was easy enough for everyone else there to hang out by > default. > > So there were always tons of gangs, and tons of friends of gangs, > and plenty of gangs hung out with each other, but different types > of gangs would get into wars with each other. You would have days > when you would see everyone walking around with good ol' big stick > equivalents (serves as a clear "I am armed and ready" warning) > and sometimes during stretches like that I would be located (I > had a job at a nearby retail clothing store for a while) and > warned that I shouldn't wander around unattended and unarmed... > Though I always had a 12" dagger on me. I didn't have a big > stick so, you know, defenseless looking girl. ;) > > It was funny, it seems like I had to learn every way to shuffle > that dagger off me and out of sight for cop searches. I carried > it because there were too many creeps out there, not because of > any gang issues. But it's easy to see how the whole association > with gangs and their general political violent turmoil would be > a drag for people. Probably better to only have to deal with > your own fights, and not fights based on gang politics, a lot > of the time. Maybe the only reason I didn't mind was because > I was weak and felt better with a lot of protective people > around. Or maybe the general circumstances of life made me > feel better not being on my own with things, though I sometimes > was in bad situations anyway. > > Could just have friends for that, in other areas. > > I've been curious about what the Denver street life is like now. > I know a lot more about what it used to be like. Denver was never > quite as structured, I think, because it isn't prime territory for > street life. Cold Winters! You really NEED to find places to > stay here, in California the nights can get cold but if you can > find a blanket you're okay. Just wear a lot of layers, I tended > toward t-shirt + flannel + jacket. Doesn't work here. Even when > I was older, if I got stranded I needed to luck into finding a > place to stay for the night (the last time was when I was 19 or 20 > and wandering confused on the streets, wondering what to do, and > happened to meet a guy who was staying in a place with probably at > least 20 odd people sleeping on the floor... I always did have that > charmed luck, I guess, counters all of my atrocious luck!). > > Crash pads were always popular if you could find one and get an > invite in. > > What makes me curious right now is that there seems to be something > of an organized hovel system here now. Hovels made around parks, > I think... Sadly I had a good chance to ask a lot of questions > last October, but I was too drunk to think of it at the moment. > I had walked out of a bar for a cigarette and wound up talking to > a guy who claimed he was only kicked out because he lost his ID > (note that I'm not saying I believe this, he looked young and I > said all of the same things when I was young... it was funny, he > even claimed about the same age I did when I was under-age). He > wanted me to go back to the hovel he was staying at. Um, no... > Heh. Not too seemly for a 30-something Mom. ;) Easy to suspect > I wouldn't have made it back safely anyway. But I do regret not > asking more about it. ={ I suppose I was too busy arguing with > him about why he shouldn't want to have sex with me. ;) > > Food was always a tried and true method for getting people to sit > around and talk for a while. Everyone likes to assume that all > pan-handlers really only want booze and drugs and cigarettes... > and they probably do, but they also tend to want food. When I > was in CA, there was a guy I hung out with some. He was 19, > but still on the streets and used to the life. He was old! ;) > Also very charming, though. Pockets full of girls phone #s, > that he once burned in front of me, heh (I was one who got > away), and if he pan-handled he could get people handing him > $20. One time we were out pan-handling together, and a woman > took us to the closest fast food place for a meal. She was > curious, I think, used it as a good chance to sit there asking > questions and talking. Maybe adults will decline a food offer, > but kids often won't... even if they evade like mad during the > conversations (I sure did!). > > I also liked people who would buy cigarettes or do a food trip > through a convenience store or whatever. And I never knew > anyone young who didn't like it as well. I remember one time > in a crash pad here, right around my 16th birthday, right when > I came back from CA, we were pan-handling (wanted booze, but > hey) at a 7-11 and a couple took us in to shop. We were all > so happy and so thoroughly confused, balking at getting all of > the food we wanted... they kept needing to hand more and more > to us. We were like excited kids told to rum amok in a toy > store, but we also felt very insecure and greedy. So, sure, > we had wanted worse things, but it was such a feeling of heaven > to be told to go in there and buy all of the food we wanted. > Someone does the smart thing, and you don't know how to deal > with it because normally they just give you change or a few > bucks to get rid of you. Initially none of us could pick > ANYTHING out, they had to pick a lot of what we got for us... > > Sad to see the part where the ones who don't really need anything > call church people stupid. Church people can be great. There > was one church in CA where I was basically found looking like a > ragged mess in the parking lot, so I was brought in for pizza and > we played hangman. I still remember getting "superstitious" as > soon as the first letter (s) was in place. They were impressed! > I thought they were terribly nice. I also felt awkward because > I'd kind of desecrated their church Sunday school trailer by > having sex in it earlier that morning (didn't want to, hated the > guy it happened with, but I still felt bad about it), and there > they were being so nice to sacrilegious me. Far from the first > time. First time was probably when I was 10 or younger and a > friend and I got lost at a flea market. A couple with a trailer > gave us money for food and let us hang out in their trailer, > listening to Christian music on their little transistor radio. > > People like that aren't being stupid. They know they might not > be appreciated, they know they might be stabbed in the back (even > literally), they're being decent and should be appreciated. I > always remembered anyone who did anything like that. Even down > to, say, a man who bummed my last cigarette and when he noticed > it was the last cigarette a raggy looking kid had he sent me in > to buy a carton for myself. Boy was that ever good karma. ;) > (Except in that I regret being a smoker!) > > When Mike mentioned letting those 2 into his apartment, my first > thought was that I would be terribly paranoid about doing that. > But I guess he wound up terribly paranoid about it, too. So I > think that's a good demonstration of how stupid people are not > being, they know it's dangerous and thankless and they still do > it anyway. All of his paranoid checking for cars and everything > for a long time afterward probably sums up how stupid many people > are NOT. So they're getting suckered by the ones who don't really > need help, but that's better than blowing off all of the ones who > do. They know there are plenty who will sucker them, but it's like > assuming all pan-handlers are off to buy a bottle or crack. The > ones who aren't going to do that can't get anything. So... offer > to buy a burger for someone if you can manage it, and see who > takes off. > > Well. I guess that finally got me rambling a bit. ;) > > -- > Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament > Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado > http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo > Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! > Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Cpaod-discuss mailing list > Cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net > http://lists.netonecom.net/mailman/listinfo/cpaod-discuss _________________________________________________________________ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_instantaccess_042008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.netonecom.net/pipermail/cpaod-discuss/attachments/20080415/84f9b22e/attachment-0001.htm From jsailing at netonecom.net Wed Apr 16 12:06:34 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Wed Apr 16 12:06:43 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] My cover story at the San Diego Reader In-Reply-To: <21624904.1208289967301.JavaMail.root@m03> References: <21461133.1206462905928.JavaMail.root@m03> <47FF7DD7.2070102@netonecom.net> <29857804.1207933791074.JavaMail.root@m03> <4804D597.7000407@netonecom.net> <21624904.1208289967301.JavaMail.root@m03> Message-ID: <4806240A.7020405@netonecom.net> Mike Hemmingson wrote: > Thanks! This is great commentary -- can you, if ou can, post it in > the comets section on the Reader page... Sure... I might need to reword a bit, so I'll wait until I'm awake enough to make sure all asses are properly covered. ;) Easy to babble here, when I know only a few people will read it (if a few even do!). Though I already pre-omitted plenty here, since posts get archived and fall into web searches. Not like I mentioned why it was that I was hanging out with gangs. Didn't name any names, or anything like that. Name names, and someone will turn out to be a respectable business mogul at this point who would go down in scandal after someone googled the post. ;) Or the 19 year old I mentioned will have a wife and kids, and the wife will find the post, realize he was a charming womanizer, and then discover his 15 mistresses and take the kids and run. Then he'll come kill me. ;) Would they delete my message for mentioning having sex in a church Sunday school trailer? I was only 16, and it wasn't even consensual, so it's not like I was saying it to be offensive... I was standing up for nice church people like I always do, and mentioning my awkwardness in the scenario (I was raised with religion, these things can make me feel pretty weird). I felt like the comment contributed to what I was saying, but maybe I was just being weird as usual. I've been a bit hyper-paranoid lately because of a project I'm working on. > which I get money to feed my two cats... Well, I know how much cats like to eat. Mine gets fed twice a day, and needs to voraciously scarf grass in between. But, even for a cat, she REALLY likes to eat and psyched the vet into thinking she was pregnant when we first got her. I'd need to eat a lot of donuts to gain weight as fast as she did. Poor psycho brat probably nearly starved at some point before landing in a shelter. I also think she was stuffed in a plastic bag, at the very least. We've had her for about 3.5 years now, she's calmed down a lot. Rehabilitating ex street cats with issues, it seems to match the topic at hand. ;) -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From jsailing at netonecom.net Wed Apr 16 14:17:30 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Wed Apr 16 14:17:19 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] *yawn* Music, Cats, and Eyeballs Message-ID: <480642BA.5080507@netonecom.net> Tired today. Well, I'm always tired. Today my face is puffy and my eyes hurt because I was tweaking out and crying too much... but that was yesterday, it was just enough to carry over through the night. Probably didn't sleep enough, or at all well, as usual. I feel like talking about nothing. Perhaps I'm unfocused the day after a tweak out. I've been noticing my general eclecticness has never managed to fade one bit. I was listening to Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon, mostly because Brain Damage somehow popped into my head and stuck (while I was dangling over the edge yesterday, heh, that's appropriate). Then I listened to I See a Darkness by Johnny Cash. That's a reasonable segue, at least title-wise. Now I'm listening to Coil/Current 93's Nightmare Culture. I'm not sure how that follows, I simply felt like listening to it. I listen to Coil a LOT, but Horse Rotorvator and Love's Secret Domain are most typical. Nightmare Culture has the charming song titles, ala "His Body Was a Playground for the Nazi Elite". My cat has a cat nemesis in the backyard. They had one of their usual stand-offs this morning. Tortoiseshell (my cat) vs Siamese, neither type are known for their pleasant natures. The Siamese is the nicer one, I think, but it's also bigger. Unfortunately for my cat, my backyard has it all. A big dirt pile, a compost pit that attracts scavenging rodents, tall grass, sun and shade, and, of course, tons of catnip. Clearly a paradise for every cat in the neighborhood that wants to brave crossing the fence. It used to be funny to watch the Siamese get thoroughly drugged up in my herb garden. Then it nibbled one of my shrubs that needs to be left alone to grow, and it pooped in the compost pit, and our relationship kinda went downhill. It can go be a drug addict elsewhere, if it's going to take its munchies out on my shrub. My eyes... I think since I started getting the phlebotomies, it has been very painful for me to cry. Not enough moisture in me for the torrents I get going or something. Plus I think Grave's messed up my eyes a bit. I don't look bug-eyed, but I often feel like my eyes want to pop out. Since I've always had an eyeball phobia (even animated bad eyeball moments can get to me) this is not much fun. My endocrinologist reassured me that it's not too damn likely that my eyes will suddenly pop out. That'd be so freaky. I'd just be screaming... hopefully Bruce would be home to run me to the emergency room. I don't think I could cope at all with something like that. Yep. So last night I'm bawling my eyes out, and they're feeling weird, and I'm wondering if it's possible to literally bawl my eyes out... Now I'll have an eternal unrelenting paranoia that crying will pop my eyes right out of their sockets. That'll lead to also feeling edgy while other people are crying, because I'll be afraid of seeing THEIR eyes pop out. *SIGH* Me, and eyeballs. I always thought it was a bit of an inherited fear due to my Mom getting a switchblade in her eye as a kid. But Bruce's Dad managed to be a cliche and put his eye out breaking bottles or something like that, and Bruce does not have an overwhelming eyeball phobia. My Mom was probably more neurotic about her eye than his Dad was. I think it also contributed that I saw my great-granddad with his glass eye out when I was very very little (about 5 or so) and that seriously freaked me out (the empty eye socket). I very strongly hope my eyeballs never pop out. Everyone say a good word to the universe for me on that one. ;) -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From jsailing at netonecom.net Wed Apr 16 14:46:09 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Wed Apr 16 14:45:56 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Venture Bros & Metalocalypse Message-ID: <48064971.5020309@netonecom.net> I recently watched some US cartoons, as opposed to anime, for a change of pace. Gordon loaned us the DVD sets of season 1 of Metalocalypse and seasons 1-2 of The Venture Bros. (Has Blake seen either? I can't recall if he mentioned them.) Metalocalypse is cute. Death metal band, parodies of most imaginable metal cliches. The singer is obviously "inspired by" Glenn Danzig. I like their business manager... Venture Bros was more fun, IMO, though both series took a little warming up to. As most series do! That one's satirical of Johnny Quest, Superhero comics, etc. I said early on "I was never quite as up on geek culture as I could've been, I need a dorky fanboy type to fill in some of the blanks for me" (at the least, I never read superhero comics. I mostly only heard a lot about them). Bruce raised his hand and volunteered. Convenient that the only person in the room happened to be a dorky fanboy type when I said that... I was not at all insinuating myself that he could be such a thing... Ok, so maybe I was. ;) But this clearly demonstrates that I chose to marry a dorky fanboy type, so what can I say. Obviously I can say "Please help me understand all of the dorky fanboy jokes in this series". Fortunately there were also plenty of jokes that were more both of our speeds, ala being with Lydia Lunch and Stiv Bator and "Nice shot, William S. Burroughs!". (Nice shot, good shot... I think it was nice shot, or at least that sounds best to me.) There was a brief, couple of seconds, running with scissors moment that everyone should be able to appreciate. Took a while (a few episodes or so), but then J.G. Thirlwell caught the corner of my eye in the credits. I had to blink and do a double-take and rewind. Sure enough, he did the music for the series! -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From jsailing at netonecom.net Wed Apr 16 15:05:15 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Wed Apr 16 15:04:57 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] *yawn* Music, Cats, and Eyeballs In-Reply-To: <14839086.1208371164271.JavaMail.root@m03> References: <14839086.1208371164271.JavaMail.root@m03> Message-ID: <48064DEB.1040308@netonecom.net> Jasmine Sailing wrote: > Then I listened to I See a Darkness by Johnny Cash. Y'know... I feel a bit cheated that I never got to see Johnny Cash touring with The Bad Seeds. There was quite a hubbub when we all thought that would eventually happen. But, at least as far as I know, they never played in Colorado. We did get to see a Nick Cave show where he played The Mercy Seat and introduced it as "This is a Johnny Cash song". That was funny. Recently I was talking about "In the Ghetto" and Bruce thought Elvis might've also covered that song. I said "Nick Cave credited it to Elvis, but after he called The Mercy Seat a Johnny Cash song I'm not sure how much I want to trust his credits". Ok. The Mercy Seat IS a Johnny Cash song. It just seems one might call it slightly more of a Nick Cave song. ;) -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From avantpop at hotmail.com Wed Apr 16 16:31:27 2008 From: avantpop at hotmail.com (Mike Hemmingson) Date: Wed Apr 16 16:31:34 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Venture Bros & Metalocalypse In-Reply-To: <48064971.5020309@netonecom.net> References: <48064971.5020309@netonecom.net> Message-ID: I started watching Adult Swim about a year ago, each night, as good background for writing cultural and critical theory, but also one night, half-asleep and coming down from a shrrom mentality, they played a marathon of Aqua Teen Hunger Force, which I had never seen, and was convinced the Unievsre was messing with my mind, esp. the epsiode "Hand Bannana." Who could think of shit like this but some bastard family off-shoot the Jellies... Metaloclpyse took a while to like, but now I love it....Always love Venture Bosthers, Harvey Birdman, Olongs, Home Movies, Robot Chicken....still on the fence about The Boondocks as it seems to encourage being a young gangsta dipshit...but I kow it has its audience....Xaviere is plain weird as is Assy McGee....Dark Places leave sme saying "what the helll"....Tiotally into Inyashua (esp. the sexual innuendoi among the humans and dmeons) and Blood Plus... Michael Hemmingson > Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:46:09 -0600 > From: jsailing@netonecom.net > To: Cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net > CC: > Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Venture Bros & Metalocalypse > > I recently watched some US cartoons, as opposed to anime, for > a change of pace. Gordon loaned us the DVD sets of season 1 > of Metalocalypse and seasons 1-2 of The Venture Bros. > > (Has Blake seen either? I can't recall if he mentioned them.) > > Metalocalypse is cute. Death metal band, parodies of most > imaginable metal cliches. The singer is obviously "inspired > by" Glenn Danzig. I like their business manager... > > Venture Bros was more fun, IMO, though both series took a little > warming up to. As most series do! That one's satirical of > Johnny Quest, Superhero comics, etc. I said early on "I was > never quite as up on geek culture as I could've been, I need a > dorky fanboy type to fill in some of the blanks for me" (at the > least, I never read superhero comics. I mostly only heard a lot > about them). Bruce raised his hand and volunteered. Convenient > that the only person in the room happened to be a dorky fanboy > type when I said that... I was not at all insinuating myself > that he could be such a thing... Ok, so maybe I was. ;) But > this clearly demonstrates that I chose to marry a dorky fanboy > type, so what can I say. Obviously I can say "Please help me > understand all of the dorky fanboy jokes in this series". > > Fortunately there were also plenty of jokes that were more both > of our speeds, ala being with Lydia Lunch and Stiv Bator and > "Nice shot, William S. Burroughs!". (Nice shot, good shot... > I think it was nice shot, or at least that sounds best to me.) > There was a brief, couple of seconds, running with scissors > moment that everyone should be able to appreciate. > > Took a while (a few episodes or so), but then J.G. Thirlwell > caught the corner of my eye in the credits. I had to blink > and do a double-take and rewind. Sure enough, he did the > music for the series! > > -- > Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament > Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado > http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo > Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! > Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Cpaod-discuss mailing list > Cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net > http://lists.netonecom.net/mailman/listinfo/cpaod-discuss _________________________________________________________________ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_instantaccess_042008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Apr 16, 2008, at 3:31 PM, Mike Hemmingson wrote: > I started watching Adult Swim about a year ago, each night, as good > background for writing cultural and critical theory, but also one > night, half-asleep and coming down from a shrrom mentality, they > played a marathon of Aqua Teen Hunger Force, which I had never seen, > and was convinced the Unievsre was messing with my mind, esp. the > epsiode "Hand Bannana." Who could think of shit like this but some > bastard family off-shoot the Jellies... > > Metaloclpyse took a while to like, but now I love it....Always love > Venture Bosthers, Harvey Birdman, Olongs, Home Movies, Robot > Chicken....still on the fence about The Boondocks as it seems to > encourage being a young gangsta dipshit...but I kow it has its > audience....Xaviere is plain weird as is Assy McGee....Dark Places > leave sme saying "what the helll"....Tiotally into Inyashua (esp. > the sexual innuendoi among the humans and dmeons) and Blood Plus... > > Michael Hemmingson > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.netonecom.net/pipermail/cpaod-discuss/attachments/20080416/3398c646/attachment-0001.htm From stvj at suddenlink.net Wed Apr 16 17:29:54 2008 From: stvj at suddenlink.net (stvj) Date: Wed Apr 16 17:33:19 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Venture Bros & Metalocalypse In-Reply-To: References: <48064971.5020309@netonecom.net> Message-ID: <3D0EA3986711498B87A49424DD720F3F@stvjPC> It's extremely rare that I watch any tv or even dvd's these days, but several months (or a year or two?) back I caught pieces of the Adult Swim "Minoriteam" cartoon and was pleased and surprised to see that it's style of artwork is based on Jack Kirby's 60s, 70's and later style stuff. Parts of some of its other cartoons impressed me also and the show seems to be worth the watch for those who actually have a television handy ;) Believe it or not, "Boondocks" ran as a newspaper strip in the AR DemocratGazette for a while until someone realized it didn't fit their conservative agenda. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Hemmingson To: Discussion About CP-ish Topics Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 3:31 PM Subject: RE: [Cpaod-discuss] Venture Bros & Metalocalypse I started watching Adult Swim about a year ago, each night, as good background for writing cultural and critical theory, but also one night, half-asleep and coming down from a shrrom mentality, they played a marathon of Aqua Teen Hunger Force, which I had never seen, and was convinced the Unievsre was messing with my mind, esp. the epsiode "Hand Bannana." Who could think of shit like this but some bastard family off-shoot the Jellies... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.netonecom.net/pipermail/cpaod-discuss/attachments/20080416/59debee8/attachment.htm From jsailing at netonecom.net Thu Apr 17 11:32:26 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Thu Apr 17 11:30:40 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] My cover story at the San Diego Reader In-Reply-To: <12216222.1208276442081.JavaMail.root@m03> References: <21461133.1206462905928.JavaMail.root@m03> <47FF7DD7.2070102@netonecom.net> <29857804.1207933791074.JavaMail.root@m03> <12216222.1208276442081.JavaMail.root@m03> Message-ID: <48076D8A.6070506@netonecom.net> Ugh... So I spent the morning touching up my ramble, and even adding some more details here and there, to post it as a comment, just to get a "make sure your post is under 3000 characters" error. *grumble* Right now it's over 9000 characters. ;) Since it'll barely exist by the time I can post it, and probably won't be very worth it, here's the useless version I fixed up this morning. Most notable is that I added a bit about "getting in with the gangs". A lot I shouldn't get into there, and didn't, like about the guy who was not liked and how things went for him (which would all be speculation for me anyway, as it was back then). Hrm. If anyone knows publishers who like 1st person accounts, I could probably manage a lot more than this... that might be kind of fun... but it's not like I'm going to write something and then send it around. I don't do that. *** Great article! I've always loved your articles along these lines. I might have a decent idea of what D. was talking about with Orange County and L.A. When I was a teen, they were extremely gang oriented areas (much moreso than any other area I ever lived in). You didn't need to be in a gang, but you did need to be able to get along with some of them -- kind of hang out with them. I'm sure tons has changed over the past couple of decades, but overall structures have a way of staying the same. Or at least similar. I think it was probably easy for me because I was a girl, and a lot of guys were protective of me, including the very old school AND Scandinavian import leader of one of the gangs in the area. He gave me a scare and broke all of my cigarettes the first time I met him. I was stuck sharing a blanket (cold night) with someone I hated, who was really really bugging me (grand detail-avoiding understatement), and he was not surprisingly disliked by all of these people as well. That was depressing because I'd just managed to buy those cigarettes, and I was already having a terrible night. I huddled under the blanket thinking I was about to be seriously beaten up or killed. Fortunately I wasn't. It was a guilt by association, it had nothing to do with me. Being around the right people was for the best. The next time I met this particular leader (a few days later) I was with someone he liked, and he quickly apologized for the misunderstanding. It was easy enough for me to fall in from that point onward, and I felt reasonably safe. Many of the gangs would actually hang out with each other, so there'd be cross-over. And lots of other people would hang out in general. There was the crowd from a garage I slept in once (lots of people slept there, big garage, I wouldn't have slept in it without "friends"... I'd already had more than enough trouble with guys), there were crowds from all around, there was a group home right down the street. One of the girls in the group home was in one of the gangs, so it was easy enough for everyone else there to hang out by default. Again, as long as you knew people who were liked it was easy enough to hang out. So there were always tons of gangs, and tons of friends of gangs, and plenty of gangs hung out with each other, but different types of gangs would get into wars with each other. There was always this kind of tension. Then you would have days when you would see everyone walking around with good ol' big stick equivalents (serves as a clear "I am armed and ready" warning) and sometimes during stretches like that I would be located (I had a job at a nearby retail clothing store for a while) and warned that I shouldn't wander around unattended and unarmed... Though I always had a 12" dagger on me. I didn't have a big stick so, you know, defenseless looking girl. ;) It was funny, it seems like I had to learn every way to shuffle that dagger off me and out of sight for cop searches. I carried it because there were too many creeps out there, not because of any gang issues. But it's easy to see how the whole association with gangs and their general political violent turmoil would be a drag for people. It's probably better in general to only need to deal with your own fights, and not also fights based on gang politics. Maybe the only reason I didn't mind was because I was weak and felt better with a lot of protective people around me. Fundamentally I was a very frightened person, and I craved a sense of family and friends who would keep me safe. It's interesting to look back and think I felt safe around people who might've just as easily beaten me up if I was with the wrong people (it's likely that I only dodged that at the start by being a girl), and who would wind up in fights over things they had no real personal connection to. Simply having a group of friends in a non-gang area would provide that same sense of family and friends to be safe with. I wasn't around San Diego much, but I had friends there and it did feel more peaceful overall. Not gang central, at the least. I've been curious about what the Denver street life is like now (I live in Denver, I haven't been to California for a long time but I'm still pretty nostalgic about those days... so many firsts for me happened there!). I know a lot more about what it used to be like. Denver was never quite as structured, I think, because it isn't prime territory for street life. Cold Winters! Atlanta is far more popular! (Or was, I'm not sure if it still is.) You really NEED to find places to stay in Colorado, in California the nights can get cold but if you can find a blanket you're okay. Though even there it was often convenient to sleep under a tree during the day, and drink coffee all night. But you simply wear a lot of layers in California, I tended toward t-shirt + flannel + jacket. It doesn't work in Colorado. Even when I was older, if I got stranded I needed to luck into finding a place to stay for the night (the last time was when I was 19 and wandering confused on the streets, wondering what to do, and happened to meet a guy who was staying in a place with probably at least 20 odd people sleeping on the floor... I always did have that charmed luck, I guess, it counters all of my atrocious luck!). Crash pads were always popular if you could find one and get an invite in. What makes me curious right now is that there seems to be something of an organized hovel system in Denver now. Hovels made around parks, I think... Sadly I had a good chance to ask a lot of questions last October, but I was having a fun night out at a bar event and was too tipsy to think of it. I had walked outside for a cigarette and wound up talking to a guy who claimed he was only kicked out because he lost his ID (note that I'm not saying I believe this, he looked young and I said all of the same things when I was young... it was funny, he even claimed the same age I did when I was under-age). He wanted me to go back to the hovel he was staying at. Um, no... Heh. Not too seemly for a 30-something like me. ;) Easy to suspect I wouldn't have made it back safely anyway. But I do regret not asking more about it! ={ I suppose I was too busy arguing with him about why he shouldn't want to have sex with me. ;) I was acting like a concerned and mildly scolding Mom, which was probably what was attracting him. *sigh* (I'm not sighing at him, it's easy to be confused when some part of you wants more security in life, I'm sighing because situations like that are sad and uncomfortable.) Food was always a tried and true method for getting people to sit around and talk for a while. Everyone likes to assume that all pan-handlers really only want booze and drugs and cigarettes... and they probably do (not all, there were always some thoroughly straight edge street kids), but many of them also tend to want food. When I was in CA, there was a guy I hung out with some. He was 19, but still on the streets and used to the life. He was old! ;) Also very charming, though. Pockets full of girls phone #s, that he once burned in front of me, heh (I was one who got away), and if he pan-handled he could get people handing him $20. One time we were out pan-handling together, and a woman took us to the closest fast food place for a meal. She was curious, I think, she used it as a good opportunity to sit there asking questions and talking. Maybe adults will decline a food offer, but kids often won't... even if they evade like mad during the conversations (we sure did!). I also appreciated people who would buy cigarettes or do a food trip through a convenience store or whatever. And I never knew anyone young who didn't like it as well. I remember one time in a crash pad in Denver, right after I returned from CA, we were pan-handling (wanted booze, but hey) at a 7-11 and a couple took us in to shop. We were all so happy and so thoroughly confused, balking at getting any of the food we wanted... We would see something tasty, get excited, try to grab it, feel awkward and stop. They kept needing to hand more and more to us. We were like excited kids told to rum amok in a toy store, but we also felt terribly insecure and greedy. So, sure, we had wanted worse things, but it was such a feeling of Heaven to be told to go in there and buy all of the food we wanted. Someone does the smart and generous thing, and you don't know how to deal with it because normally they just give you change or a few bucks to get rid of you. If someone agrees to a food offer and then balks, I recommend helping them pick some food! It was sad to see the part where the ones who don't really need anything (weekend warriors) call church people stupid. Church people can be great! There was one church in CA where I was basically found looking like a ragged mess in the parking lot, so I was brought in for pizza and we played hangman. I still remember getting "superstitious" as soon as the first letter (s) was in place. They were impressed! And I felt good about it, after a terrible night. I thought they were extremely nice. I also felt awkward because I'd kind of desecrated their church Sunday school trailer by having sex in it earlier that morning (didn't want to, hated the guy it happened with, hated it all, but I still felt guilty about it), and there they were being so nice to sacrilegious me. Far from the first time. The first time was probably when I was 10 or younger and a friend and I got lost at a flea market. A couple with a trailer gave us money for food and let us hang out in their trailer, listening to Christian music on their little transistor radio. People like the church people who fed me and played hangman are not being stupid. They know they might not be appreciated, they know they might be stabbed in the back (even literally), they're being decent and they should be appreciated. I always remembered anyone who did anything like that. Even down to, say, a man who bummed my last cigarette and when he noticed it was my last cigarette (I knew I would get to another pack very quickly, but I was still hesitant and probably looking somewhat depressed about it... this was shortly after the pack-breaking episode) he sent me in to buy a carton for myself. Boy was that ever good karma. ;) (Except in that I regret being a smoker!) When Mike mentioned letting those 2 kids into his apartment, my first thought was that I would be terribly paranoid about doing that. But I guess he wound up terribly paranoid about it, too. So I think that's a good demonstration of how stupid people are not being, they know it's dangerous and thankless and they still do it anyway. All of his paranoid checking for cars and everything for a long time afterward probably aptly sums up how stupid many people are NOT. So they're getting suckered by the ones who don't really need help, but that's better than blowing off all of the ones who do. They know there are plenty who will sucker them, but it's like assuming all pan-handlers are off to buy a bottle or crack. The ones who aren't going to do that can't get anything as a result. So... offer to buy a burger for someone if you can manage it, and see who takes off. Maybe at the least you'll get a conversation with worthwhile insight. -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From jsailing at netonecom.net Thu Apr 17 12:35:44 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Thu Apr 17 12:35:57 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] My cover story at the San Diego Reader In-Reply-To: <1497769.1208446706157.JavaMail.root@m03> References: <21461133.1206462905928.JavaMail.root@m03> <47FF7DD7.2070102@netonecom.net> <29857804.1207933791074.JavaMail.root@m03> <12216222.1208276442081.JavaMail.root@m03> <1497769.1208446706157.JavaMail.root@m03> Message-ID: <48077C60.4030408@netonecom.net> Oops... had line break issues. Didn't bother to look at the preview because I was looking at the 3000 character max and grinding my teeth. Found some typos too! And even a missing apostrophe. So I'm down to 4265 characters and feeling seriously pissed off. It's getting really difficult to cut anything out at this point. Not terribly happy about cutting out some of the things I did. I guess I need to remind myself that no one is going to look at this, and it's only about Mike getting money. It's just that it's a topic I've always cared about, and that makes it difficult for me. So now's when I take a breather by making irritable comments. Like that I talk about my eyeball phobia, as I did yesterday, and I don't mention that the guy who took the best care of me out there, and who I was kind of in love with as a result, did some seriously grotesque things... Once I saw him bash a duck to death with a bat. Its eye was hanging out on the ground, still attached to the optic nerve. It was all just hanging there, and I've always loved animals. I'll never get that image out of my head. I couldn't do anything about it, I would complain when I was offended. No one would listen. The 19 year old, different guy, borrowed my dagger and came back with blood and feathers all over and also said he had stabbed a Mexican in the ass with it. I felt like my dagger was desecrated, I only had it with me because I was afraid... I didn't want it being used to kill ducks and have fights with people. And that asshole I shared the blanket with that night, it is possible that he was killed. I don't know anything, there would not be any point in questioning me. His name was Jay, no clue what his last name was. I told a guy named John, no clue what his last name was, that he'd forced himself on me and he said he was going to kill him. And then the guy... disappeared. So I always wondered. And I didn't really care, because apparently he'd been doing this to other girls too. I cared about the ducks... I didn't care about an exploitative guy who was bringing a lot of hatred on himself. Maybe if I'd known he had seriously been killed, instead of only wondering about it as a speculative possibility, I would have felt bad. Who knows, though, I was pretty messed up back then. Maybe I would've thought he deserved it, and felt relieved. -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From jsailing at netonecom.net Thu Apr 17 17:55:43 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Thu Apr 17 17:56:49 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] My cover story at the San Diego Reader In-Reply-To: <2905156.1208450504888.JavaMail.root@m03> References: <21461133.1206462905928.JavaMail.root@m03> <47FF7DD7.2070102@netonecom.net> <29857804.1207933791074.JavaMail.root@m03> <12216222.1208276442081.JavaMail.root@m03> <1497769.1208446706157.JavaMail.root@m03> <2905156.1208450504888.JavaMail.root@m03> Message-ID: <4807C75F.5060406@netonecom.net> Feh. I should give up. I edited and edited and edited and obviously wound up in a bad mood in the process. Then I hit 3000 characters. Still kept getting the same error. Still kept editing. It's down to 2796 characters. I ctrl-F5ed the site to make sure there was no weird cache count going on. Still says I need to make it under 3000 characters. Right. So, okay. I posted a comment basically saying great article, and that I tried to post a comment about more but it didn't work out. Figured it doesn't matter, since it's really only comments of any sort that are needed. I'm officially frazzled, I wasted an entire day on that. Too bad it didn't occur to me that any ol' comment would do this morning, *sigh*. > And that asshole I shared the blanket with that night, it is > possible that he was killed. Should've specified that I never BELIEVED this to be the case. As disliked as he was, he was best off relocating to another area. And he probably did. It's hard not to wonder, when someone says he's going to kill him and then he disappears. But that's my point. Wondering how I would've felt about it if he had been killed and that detail became real in my mind. Impossible to tell when it's unnecessary to believe that it happened. I always wonder about things like that. Obviously I bothered to take the whole concept into consideration, so I wasn't being completely cold about it. -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From jsailing at netonecom.net Thu Apr 17 18:05:03 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Thu Apr 17 18:06:10 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Eh Message-ID: <4807C98F.2010302@netonecom.net> I've been feeling a bit emotional all week, and I got to babbling. I'm sure I'll space off as usual now. -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From jsailing at netonecom.net Fri Apr 18 10:36:31 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Fri Apr 18 10:38:48 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Venture Bros & Metalocalypse In-Reply-To: <26193147.1208378030184.JavaMail.root@m03> References: <48064971.5020309@netonecom.net> <26193147.1208378030184.JavaMail.root@m03> Message-ID: <4808B1EF.1090000@netonecom.net> Mike Hemmingson wrote: > Tiotally into Inyashua (esp. the sexual innuendoi among the humans and > dmeons) I watched Inuyasha in Japanese... thought it was kind of boring. Some parts are seriously boring and hard to get through, others are better. Too many better anime series! Way too many! I don't think I could handle the dub. Many years ago (5? 6?) when they showed the first episode we were at a hotel and watched it. The edits were obnoxious. They even gave the poor mononoke a mastectomy. ;) Maybe they've toned down on the edits over the years. We'd already seen the series before then, most of it, the end was still coming out in Japan. I was relieved when it finally ended, though it wasn't a real ending because the manga was still coming out. One of those "I am soooo bored and sick of this, but my obsessive completist nature won't let me escape" ruts. I tried rewatching it with Amara last year, but she stopped watching it after a while. I showed it to her BECAUSE I felt like I'd been letting her watch some things that were too dark and perverse, so that one was mellow and drab and mostly harmless and unperverse and would keep her busy for a while. Inuyasha's actually pretty un-perverse and low on the sexual innuendo for anime. ;) I'm surprised they even bother to show it on Adult Swim, instead of during the day. Weird series because it's half shounen and half shoujo. But most shounen is several times more violent, weird, and perverse (I've always been a fighting series addict), and a lot of shoujo is weirder and more perverse... I do like Kikyo, and I like Sesshoumaru-tachi (everyone in that group, Rin and Jaken are cute). Too bad they weren't around more. Geeze. If it's Adult Swim, there are so many absolutely wacko anime series they could show... What weirdos! ;) Well, no, they would just edit and ruin them. ={ I'd be tempted to watch if they tried to air something like Kemonozume. Narutaru... well, no, wouldn't wish that on the world. They could at least show something classy, like Paranoia Agent. -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From jsailing at netonecom.net Mon Apr 21 15:27:08 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Mon Apr 21 15:27:18 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Amara Message-ID: <480CEA8C.6070302@netonecom.net> Amara had one of her paintings in a charity auction, and it sold for $250. Not bad for a 12 year old! -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From stvj at suddenlink.net Mon Apr 21 20:03:39 2008 From: stvj at suddenlink.net (stvj@suddenlink.net) Date: Mon Apr 21 20:03:46 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Amara In-Reply-To: <480CEA8C.6070302@netonecom.net> Message-ID: <20080421190339.QKVBD.285851.root@Web02> That's better than not bad, that's excellent! Congrats, Amara! :) ---- Jasmine Sailing wrote: > Amara had one of her paintings in a charity auction, and it > sold for $250. Not bad for a 12 year old! > > -- > Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament > Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado > http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo > Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! > Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Cpaod-discuss mailing list > Cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net > http://lists.netonecom.net/mailman/listinfo/cpaod-discuss From avantpop at hotmail.com Tue Apr 22 00:01:20 2008 From: avantpop at hotmail.com (Mike Hemmingson) Date: Tue Apr 22 00:01:47 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Amara In-Reply-To: <480CEA8C.6070302@netonecom.net> References: <480CEA8C.6070302@netonecom.net> Message-ID: I forgot she was that old....it seems like yesterday you were pregnant and on the Greyhound to Nebraska... What will she do with all that loot... Michael Hemmingson > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:27:08 -0600 > From: jsailing@netonecom.net > To: Cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net; wolf67belrea2@yahoo.com > CC: > Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Amara > > Amara had one of her paintings in a charity auction, and it > sold for $250. Not bad for a 12 year old! > > -- > Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament > Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado > http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo > Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! > Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Cpaod-discuss mailing list > Cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net > http://lists.netonecom.net/mailman/listinfo/cpaod-discuss _________________________________________________________________ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.netonecom.net/pipermail/cpaod-discuss/attachments/20080422/b0a7ae2b/attachment.htm From jsailing at netonecom.net Tue Apr 22 11:13:36 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Tue Apr 22 11:13:47 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Amara In-Reply-To: <20537964.1208822831506.JavaMail.root@m03> References: <20537964.1208822831506.JavaMail.root@m03> Message-ID: <480E00A0.2040208@netonecom.net> stvj@suddenlink.net wrote: > That's better than not bad, that's excellent! Congrats, Amara! :) > Heh. Yes, well, I figured any gushing on my part would cause people to suspect there's a slight bias. ;) She's my little girl, of COURSE she's perfect and will dominate the world. ;) Yeah, I was impressed. Bruce pointed out to her that since it was a charity auction it would've gone for more than something in a gallery would. Still nice, though. Even at a charity auction there's the chance that it'll not sell or sell for too little... -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From avantpop at hotmail.com Tue Apr 22 11:24:47 2008 From: avantpop at hotmail.com (Mike Hemmingson) Date: Tue Apr 22 11:24:55 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Amara In-Reply-To: <480E00A0.2040208@netonecom.net> References: <20537964.1208822831506.JavaMail.root@m03> <480E00A0.2040208@netonecom.net> Message-ID: She can sell paintings in the Hemmingson Charity for Destitute Hemmingsons. All proceeds go to... Michael Hemmingson > Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:13:36 -0600 > From: jsailing@netonecom.net > To: stvj@suddenlink.net > Subject: Re: [Cpaod-discuss] Amara > CC: cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net > > stvj@suddenlink.net wrote: > > That's better than not bad, that's excellent! Congrats, Amara! :) > > > > Heh. Yes, well, I figured any gushing on my part would cause > people to suspect there's a slight bias. ;) She's my little > girl, of COURSE she's perfect and will dominate the world. ;) > > Yeah, I was impressed. Bruce pointed out to her that since it > was a charity auction it would've gone for more than something > in a gallery would. Still nice, though. Even at a charity > auction there's the chance that it'll not sell or sell for too > little... > > -- > Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament > Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado > http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo > Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! > Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Cpaod-discuss mailing list > Cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net > http://lists.netonecom.net/mailman/listinfo/cpaod-discuss _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself wherever you are. Mobilize! http://www.gowindowslive.com/Mobile/Landing/Messenger/Default.aspx?Locale=en-US?ocid=TAG_APRIL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.netonecom.net/pipermail/cpaod-discuss/attachments/20080422/587d3331/attachment.htm From jsailing at netonecom.net Tue Apr 22 11:29:04 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Tue Apr 22 11:29:14 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Amara In-Reply-To: <23808997.1208837260438.JavaMail.root@m03> References: <480CEA8C.6070302@netonecom.net> <23808997.1208837260438.JavaMail.root@m03> Message-ID: <480E0440.2000009@netonecom.net> Mike Hemmingson wrote: > I forgot she was that old....it seems like yesterday you were pregnant > and on the Greyhound to Nebraska... Couldn't have been yesterday, since she was pre-DE and there were a handful of those. We have all aged... a tiny bit... ;) Hell, I'm even looking like I'm in my 30s lately. I blame phlebotomies. They dried me out. My days of getting carded are probably finally at an end. Bruce and I had our 11th anniversary last month! Pretty shocking that we've managed to put up with being married to each other for so long! => But, yeah, Amara is in middle school and almost done with her first year of it. Denver School of the Arts is middle through high school. Griffin will be 19 in August. I told him I don't want to be a grand parent any time soon. Not gonna be Grammy Jasmine for a while... Plus I know it wasn't yesterday because I was re-reading The Sheep Look Up when I was on a Greyhound to Nebraska (actually wasn't pregnant yet) and surprising myself by crying in front of people on the bus (always appreciated the book for that)... and I know Mr. Cr*pman managed to lose that book at his house for ages after that. Then I read it again when I finally got it back, which I wouldn't have done if years hadn't passed. Too many things to read for the first time lying around. > What will she do with all that loot... Nothing. It went to charity. So far maintaining the family tradition of never having any money. ;) -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From avantpop at hotmail.com Tue Apr 22 11:38:48 2008 From: avantpop at hotmail.com (Mike Hemmingson) Date: Tue Apr 22 11:38:55 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Grandma Jasmy In-Reply-To: <480E0440.2000009@netonecom.net> References: <480CEA8C.6070302@netonecom.net> <23808997.1208837260438.JavaMail.root@m03> <480E0440.2000009@netonecom.net> Message-ID: The sheep look up and udder, "You shalllll bahhhhhhhiie a Grammyyyyy in two years." You'll like being a little old grandma, like Larry likes being a grandfather now. It will be like standing on Zanzibar. _________________________________________________________________ Make i'm yours.? Create a custom banner to support your cause. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Contribute/Default.aspx?source=TXT_TAGHM_MSN_Make_IM_Yours -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.netonecom.net/pipermail/cpaod-discuss/attachments/20080422/9cca00ce/attachment.htm From jsailing at netonecom.net Tue Apr 22 11:41:00 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Tue Apr 22 11:41:10 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Amara In-Reply-To: <3802505.1208878344964.JavaMail.root@m03> References: <20537964.1208822831506.JavaMail.root@m03> <480E00A0.2040208@netonecom.net> <3802505.1208878344964.JavaMail.root@m03> Message-ID: <480E070C.7060901@netonecom.net> Mike Hemmingson wrote: > She can sell paintings in the Hemmingson Charity for Destitute > Hemmingsons. The "Feed My Two Cats" fund probably appeals more to kids. She just got asked to do this one. Our mortgage broker was involved with the charity and hit her up for a painting. Hopefully it'll at least be a confidence boost for her. I think I always had a general lack of confidence... Though I could fail to seem that way while on the right combinations of drugs. ;) (Would prefer Amara to not need such boosts.) -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From mont.segur at yahoo.com Tue Apr 22 11:47:37 2008 From: mont.segur at yahoo.com (Montsegur) Date: Tue Apr 22 11:47:44 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Amara In-Reply-To: <480E070C.7060901@netonecom.net> Message-ID: <95058.39665.qm@web58811.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I always tell my wife she should sell her art. She's done so twice but hasn't really pursued the opportunity. So we have lots of nice paintings around our place. Good for Amara. --- On Tue, 4/22/08, Jasmine Sailing wrote: > From: Jasmine Sailing > Subject: Re: [Cpaod-discuss] Amara > To: "Discussion About CP-ish Topics" > Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 8:41 AM > Mike Hemmingson wrote: > > She can sell paintings in the Hemmingson Charity for > Destitute > > Hemmingsons. > > The "Feed My Two Cats" fund probably appeals more > to kids. > > She just got asked to do this one. Our mortgage broker was > involved with the charity and hit her up for a painting. > Hopefully it'll at least be a confidence boost for her. > I > think I always had a general lack of confidence... Though > I could fail to seem that way while on the right > combinations > of drugs. ;) (Would prefer Amara to not need such boosts.) > > -- > Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament > Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado > http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo > Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! > Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Cpaod-discuss mailing list > Cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net > http://lists.netonecom.net/mailman/listinfo/cpaod-discuss ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From jsailing at netonecom.net Tue Apr 22 11:48:00 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Tue Apr 22 11:48:26 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] [Fwd: FW: New drug] Message-ID: <480E08B0.2060201@netonecom.net> Heh... I like the side effects at the bottom. Sounds about on par with similar medications. Actually I was leerily chuckling recently because my chart folder at the cancer center says in big black bold letters at the top "SSRIs - psychosis". Which was simply because I mentioned that, in the past, SSRIs made me psychotic and the note is about medication intolerances. But, gosh, I can think of a few ways that could be misconstrued at a glance. artistoncalldesign016001.jpg ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! 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URL: http://lists.netonecom.net/pipermail/cpaod-discuss/attachments/20080422/df7893ad/attachment.htm From jsailing at netonecom.net Tue Apr 22 14:15:33 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Tue Apr 22 14:15:42 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Amara In-Reply-To: <30169840.1208880201103.JavaMail.root@m03> References: <20537964.1208822831506.JavaMail.root@m03> <480E00A0.2040208@netonecom.net> <3802505.1208878344964.JavaMail.root@m03> <480E070C.7060901@netonecom.net> <30169840.1208880201103.JavaMail.root@m03> Message-ID: <480E2B45.8050905@netonecom.net> Mike Hemmingson wrote: > Isn't t time for CPAOD Press to come back to life....POD is getting > better every year....you could use her paintings as covers. I've been trying for a while now. Lack of submissions. I need material to be able to actually put out an issue. If I could come up with some worthwhile features I would be up for doing it again. Amara had a little art on the 2nd to last issue cover, she was a very tiny kid at the time. I hadn't known then that she would decide to be an artist, I was just being appreciative of trippy little kid art. ;) She did draw the cover of the most recent Jellyfish book, which I guess I forgot to send around to people. Of course she's not yet allowed to look INSIDE anything that she's done cover art for. I don't think I knew Larry had kids, much less grandkids. Is he accessible these days? I actually kind of wanted to ask him about something. -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From avantpop at hotmail.com Tue Apr 22 15:15:30 2008 From: avantpop at hotmail.com (Mike Hemmingson) Date: Tue Apr 22 15:15:37 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Amara In-Reply-To: <480E2B45.8050905@netonecom.net> References: <20537964.1208822831506.JavaMail.root@m03> <480E00A0.2040208@netonecom.net> <3802505.1208878344964.JavaMail.root@m03> <480E070C.7060901@netonecom.net> <30169840.1208880201103.JavaMail.root@m03> <480E2B45.8050905@netonecom.net> Message-ID: I meant the press, for doing books again...but the mag too...suibmisions, I can get those. How about Hemmingson doing a guest edit, or section. ;) Larry has a step-son, but since he was with the kid's mother since he was three or so, it is like a real son (althugh I remain his jelly son). Mark married a Korean girl and they have a nice mixed baby, Ella, that Larry dotes on Funny to see him as the doting old gramps. Maybe you two can trade grand kid stories soon -- He is accessible at mccaffer@inreach.com Michael Hemmingson > > I don't think I knew Larry had kids, much less grandkids. Is > he accessible these days? I actually kind of wanted to ask him > about something. > > -- > Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament > Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado > http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo > Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! > Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Cpaod-discuss mailing list > Cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net > http://lists.netonecom.net/mailman/listinfo/cpaod-discuss _________________________________________________________________ Back to work after baby?how do you know when you?re ready? http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid=5797498&ocid=T067MSN40A0701A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.netonecom.net/pipermail/cpaod-discuss/attachments/20080422/d61ef854/attachment.htm From rhowertonsprint at earthlink.net Tue Apr 22 18:31:49 2008 From: rhowertonsprint at earthlink.net (Ron) Date: Tue Apr 22 18:33:52 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Amara References: <480CEA8C.6070302@netonecom.net><23808997.1208837260438.JavaMail.root@m03> <480E0440.2000009@netonecom.net> Message-ID: <026601c8a4c8$a87e8ee0$6401a8c0@P4> That's CAPTAIN Crapman! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jasmine Sailing" To: "Discussion About CP-ish Topics" Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [Cpaod-discuss] Amara > Plus I know it wasn't yesterday because I was re-reading The Sheep > Look Up when I was on a Greyhound to Nebraska (actually wasn't > pregnant yet) and surprising myself by crying in front of people > on the bus (always appreciated the book for that)... and I know > Mr. Cr*pman managed to lose that book at his house for ages after > that. Then I read it again when I finally got it back, which I > wouldn't have done if years hadn't passed. Too many things to > read for the first time lying around. From jsailing at netonecom.net Tue Apr 22 18:43:25 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Tue Apr 22 18:43:33 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] CPAOD In-Reply-To: <21179087.1208892110540.JavaMail.root@m03> References: <20537964.1208822831506.JavaMail.root@m03> <480E00A0.2040208@netonecom.net> <3802505.1208878344964.JavaMail.root@m03> <480E070C.7060901@netonecom.net> <30169840.1208880201103.JavaMail.root@m03> <480E2B45.8050905@netonecom.net> <21179087.1208892110540.JavaMail.root@m03> Message-ID: <480E6A0D.6040109@netonecom.net> Mike Hemmingson wrote: > I meant the press, for doing books again...but the mag > too...suibmisions, I can get those. How about Hemmingson doing a > guest edit, or section. ;) As far as the books... obviously I can't sell fiction worth a damn. It'd be most practical to at least have the magazine going again first, so I could try to sell books through that. I would like to do an anthology. I mentioned a while back (er, probably QUITE a while back, last year at least) that I thought a Cnidarian anthology would be fun. EG stories about people who partake in the Cnidarian philosophies (BLATANTLY Cnidarian stories... the future show-down of Cnidarians Vs Mormons and such, heh). So... need to kick some asses and try to come up with some stories. ;) That might be a good kick-start. Easier than single person collections since there would be more names, plus good ol' Jellyfish appeal. Magazine... It would probably be a good idea to have a couple of guest editors doing little sections in each issue. I'd pick a couple of different types of people who have a solid history with CPAOD/DE and have some clue of what kind of wacko I am ;) (yeah, you can be one of the first ones if you want... plus I already know who might make a good other person for it). They could pick out a few different things for inclusion, I'd prefer a range to the variety... and probably no more than one fiction pick per guest editor, the other stuff would be different types of things. Plus write a little editorial (aka a babble about whatever the hell, heh, that also talks about their picks for the section). If a guest editor wanted to tackle a feature for their section, eg artist portfolio or any other regular entry (that doesn't have one specific writer, like no one could take over Little Fyodor's column for instance... IF he is still going to do it... but who would dare try to bump out Little Fyodor, heh), they wouldn't need to count that as one of their entries if they didn't want to (ie their section could be bigger than usual that way). I would need to know quickly if something like that was ever going to happen, to avoid any duplicate departments. One thing to keep in mind is that CPAOD has always been visual, so anything in there needs visuals to go along with it. I don't want that to change. The longer something is, the more visuals it needs. And, no, I can't ask Amara to illustrate several things that I won't let her read. ;) So... pictures, art, something scattered here and there looking visual. I really don't like pages going by without visuals to break up the text. It wouldn't be the entire issue, for any issue, but it would give other people a chance to pick things out for it... and it would probably help me with some of this general malaise that always causes a lot of lag. I think it could work out. I'll try it if people seriously want to. Of course I would still need to come up with more of the usual crap. Reviews, personal reality essays, make sure I have music and other multi-media in there, etc. > Larry has a step-son, but since he was with the kid's mother since he > was three or so, it is like a real son (althugh I remain his jelly son). Ah! That makes sense. My sister was kind of a grandma long ago, through her boyfriend. I'm still way too busy being a Mom right now. Best if Amara's a good deal older before that happens. Though I do kind of stockpile baby/kid things in case it's not as long as I would prefer it to be... I'm pretty gushy around babies. They're about the only humans I actually LIKE. ;) I don't have the time or energy for being a decent grandparent right now, though, enough of a struggle being a parent. -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From jsailing at netonecom.net Tue Apr 22 18:44:44 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Tue Apr 22 18:44:51 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Cr*pman In-Reply-To: <7860099.1208904047839.JavaMail.root@m03> References: <480CEA8C.6070302@netonecom.net><23808997.1208837260438.JavaMail.root@m03> <480E0440.2000009@netonecom.net> <7860099.1208904047839.JavaMail.root@m03> Message-ID: <480E6A5C.2090106@netonecom.net> Ron wrote: > That's CAPTAIN Crapman! Oh, sorry, I guess your father would be Mr. Cr*pman, right? ;) (Changed the subject line because I felt awkward about it.) -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From avantpop at hotmail.com Tue Apr 22 18:58:37 2008 From: avantpop at hotmail.com (Mike Hemmingson) Date: Tue Apr 22 18:58:45 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] CPAOD In-Reply-To: <480E6A0D.6040109@netonecom.net> References: <20537964.1208822831506.JavaMail.root@m03> <480E00A0.2040208@netonecom.net> <3802505.1208878344964.JavaMail.root@m03> <480E070C.7060901@netonecom.net> <30169840.1208880201103.JavaMail.root@m03> <480E2B45.8050905@netonecom.net> <21179087.1208892110540.JavaMail.root@m03> <480E6A0D.6040109@netonecom.net> Message-ID: Jst give me the word and I can assemble a sction of fiction and weirds realoty essays, even if are all under pen names. ;) Hopefully Amara won't be an unwed teenage mother with a crack baby! That COULD be the new issue's theme -- "The Unwed Teenage Mothers with Crack Babies" Issue. Michael Hemmingson > Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:43:25 -0600 > From: jsailing@netonecom.net > To: cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net > Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] CPAOD > > Mike Hemmingson wrote: > > I meant the press, for doing books again...but the mag > > too...suibmisions, I can get those. How about Hemmingson doing a > > guest edit, or section. ;) > > As far as the books... obviously I can't sell fiction worth a > damn. It'd be most practical to at least have the magazine > going again first, so I could try to sell books through that. > I would like to do an anthology. I mentioned a while back (er, > probably QUITE a while back, last year at least) that I thought > a Cnidarian anthology would be fun. EG stories about people > who partake in the Cnidarian philosophies (BLATANTLY Cnidarian > stories... the future show-down of Cnidarians Vs Mormons and > such, heh). So... need to kick some asses and try to come up > with some stories. ;) That might be a good kick-start. Easier > than single person collections since there would be more names, > plus good ol' Jellyfish appeal. > > Magazine... It would probably be a good idea to have a couple > of guest editors doing little sections in each issue. I'd pick > a couple of different types of people who have a solid history > with CPAOD/DE and have some clue of what kind of wacko I am ;) > (yeah, you can be one of the first ones if you want... plus I > already know who might make a good other person for it). > > They could pick out a few different things for inclusion, I'd > prefer a range to the variety... and probably no more than one > fiction pick per guest editor, the other stuff would be different > types of things. Plus write a little editorial (aka a babble > about whatever the hell, heh, that also talks about their picks > for the section). If a guest editor wanted to tackle a feature > for their section, eg artist portfolio or any other regular > entry (that doesn't have one specific writer, like no one > could take over Little Fyodor's column for instance... IF he > is still going to do it... but who would dare try to bump out > Little Fyodor, heh), they wouldn't need to count that as one > of their entries if they didn't want to (ie their section could > be bigger than usual that way). I would need to know quickly > if something like that was ever going to happen, to avoid any > duplicate departments. > > One thing to keep in mind is that CPAOD has always been visual, > so anything in there needs visuals to go along with it. I don't > want that to change. The longer something is, the more visuals > it needs. And, no, I can't ask Amara to illustrate several > things that I won't let her read. ;) So... pictures, art, > something scattered here and there looking visual. I really > don't like pages going by without visuals to break up the text. > > It wouldn't be the entire issue, for any issue, but it would give > other people a chance to pick things out for it... and it would > probably help me with some of this general malaise that always > causes a lot of lag. > > I think it could work out. I'll try it if people seriously want > to. Of course I would still need to come up with more of the > usual crap. Reviews, personal reality essays, make sure I have > music and other multi-media in there, etc. > > > Larry has a step-son, but since he was with the kid's mother since he > > was three or so, it is like a real son (althugh I remain his jelly son). > > Ah! That makes sense. My sister was kind of a grandma long > ago, through her boyfriend. I'm still way too busy being a > Mom right now. Best if Amara's a good deal older before that > happens. Though I do kind of stockpile baby/kid things in > case it's not as long as I would prefer it to be... I'm > pretty gushy around babies. They're about the only humans > I actually LIKE. ;) I don't have the time or energy for being > a decent grandparent right now, though, enough of a struggle > being a parent. > > -- > Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament > Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado > http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo > Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! > Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Cpaod-discuss mailing list > Cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net > http://lists.netonecom.net/mailman/listinfo/cpaod-discuss _________________________________________________________________ Make i'm yours.? Create a custom banner to support your cause. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Contribute/Default.aspx?source=TXT_TAGHM_MSN_Make_IM_Yours -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.netonecom.net/pipermail/cpaod-discuss/attachments/20080422/97a900b4/attachment-0001.htm From rhowertonsprint at earthlink.net Wed Apr 23 06:16:21 2008 From: rhowertonsprint at earthlink.net (Ron) Date: Wed Apr 23 06:18:26 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Cr*pman References: <480CEA8C.6070302@netonecom.net><23808997.1208837260438.JavaMail.root@m03> <480E0440.2000009@netonecom.net><7860099.1208904047839.JavaMail.root@m03> <480E6A5C.2090106@netonecom.net> Message-ID: <032601c8a52b$145fd260$6401a8c0@P4> Actually, he's a Dr. He has a PhD (Piled Higher and Deeper). :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jasmine Sailing" To: "Discussion About CP-ish Topics" Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:44 PM Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Cr*pman > Ron wrote: >> That's CAPTAIN Crapman! > > Oh, sorry, I guess your father would be Mr. Cr*pman, right? ;) > > (Changed the subject line because I felt awkward about it.) > > -- > Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament > Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado > http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo > Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! > Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Cpaod-discuss mailing list > Cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net > http://lists.netonecom.net/mailman/listinfo/cpaod-discuss > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2 - Release > Date: 4/18/2008 12:00 AM > > From jsailing at netonecom.net Wed Apr 23 10:54:34 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Wed Apr 23 10:54:43 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Cr*pman In-Reply-To: <2791549.1208946027157.JavaMail.root@m03> References: <480CEA8C.6070302@netonecom.net><23808997.1208837260438.JavaMail.root@m03> <480E0440.2000009@netonecom.net><7860099.1208904047839.JavaMail.root@m03> <480E6A5C.2090106@netonecom.net> <2791549.1208946027157.JavaMail.root@m03> Message-ID: <480F4DAA.6040801@netonecom.net> Ron wrote: > Actually, he's a Dr. He has a PhD (Piled Higher and Deeper). :-) But then you're both Dr. Cr*pman... This is terribly confusing. Maybe you need to get promoted up to St. Cr*pman at some point, so we won't have this problem. (I mean HOW does anyone expect The Blasted One to be able to handle complicated things like this?! It's like keeping track of redundant details, they all just kind of spiral and trail out of hand.) -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From john at johneverson.com Thu Apr 24 00:42:30 2008 From: john at johneverson.com (John Everson) Date: Thu Apr 24 00:42:39 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Amara In-Reply-To: <480E2B45.8050905@netonecom.net> Message-ID: <009d01c8a5c5$9c160bd0$6501a8c0@DarkArts> FYI - I wouldn't go POD when short run digital presses are around! I print all of our Dark Arts Books titles in quantities of 100 - 250 for less than $4 a unit. And they'll do smaller runs than 100. POD would cost substantially more than that I believe... > -----Original Message----- > From: Jasmine Sailing [mailto:jsailing@netonecom.net] > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 1:16 PM > To: Discussion About CP-ish Topics > Subject: Re: [Cpaod-discuss] Amara > > > Mike Hemmingson wrote: > > Isn't t time for CPAOD Press to come back to life....POD is getting > > better every year....you could use her paintings as covers. > > I've been trying for a while now. Lack of submissions. I > need material to be able to actually put out an issue. If I > could come up with some worthwhile features I would be up for > doing it again. > > Amara had a little art on the 2nd to last issue cover, she > was a very tiny kid at the time. I hadn't known then that > she would decide to be an artist, I was just being > appreciative of trippy little kid art. ;) > > She did draw the cover of the most recent Jellyfish book, > which I guess I forgot to send around to people. Of course > she's not yet allowed to look INSIDE anything that she's done > cover art for. > > I don't think I knew Larry had kids, much less grandkids. Is > he accessible these days? I actually kind of wanted to ask > him about something. > > -- > Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament > Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado > http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo > Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! > Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Cpaod-discuss mailing list > Cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net > http://lists.netonecom.net/mailman/listinfo/cpaod-discuss > From jsailing at netonecom.net Thu Apr 24 01:07:31 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Thu Apr 24 01:07:40 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] CPAOD In-Reply-To: <23582715.1209012326278.JavaMail.root@m03> References: <23582715.1209012326278.JavaMail.root@m03> Message-ID: <48101593.7010602@netonecom.net> John Everson wrote: > FYI - I wouldn't go POD when short run digital presses are around! I figured I would just make them at home, since I don't have any money to blow on anything. Should be easy enough for a magazine, though it won't look like it used to. -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From john at johneverson.com Thu Apr 24 01:12:49 2008 From: john at johneverson.com (John Everson) Date: Thu Apr 24 01:12:57 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] CPAOD In-Reply-To: <48101593.7010602@netonecom.net> Message-ID: <00c601c8a5c9$d742d4f0$6501a8c0@DarkArts> Nah - announce it, hype it and get pre-orders that cover your costs -- and do it right. I've done four books now, and had my printer costs basically covered by bookstore and individual pre-orders by the time I printed. And you could do much lower quantities to start than I've done. -John > -----Original Message----- > From: Jasmine Sailing [mailto:jsailing@netonecom.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:08 AM > To: Discussion About CP-ish Topics > Subject: Re: [Cpaod-discuss] CPAOD > > > John Everson wrote: > > FYI - I wouldn't go POD when short run digital presses are around! > > I figured I would just make them at home, since I don't have > any money to blow on anything. Should be easy enough for a > magazine, though it won't look like it used to. > > -- > Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament > Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado > http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo > Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! > Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Cpaod-discuss mailing list > Cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net > http://lists.netonecom.net/mailman/listinfo/cpaod-discuss > From jsailing at netonecom.net Thu Apr 24 13:35:03 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Thu Apr 24 13:35:15 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] CPAOD In-Reply-To: <30145090.1209014547907.JavaMail.root@m03> References: <30145090.1209014547907.JavaMail.root@m03> Message-ID: <4810C4C7.6000305@netonecom.net> John Everson wrote: > Nah - announce it, hype it and get pre-orders that cover your costs -- and do it right. Eh, this is a little magazine that sells for $5-6. Different world from pricier books. Small order runs + shipping would cost more than the cover price. Magazines were always fine for making at home. The last few CPAOD Books were made at home too, that's more difficult because binding them is so fumey... So I would probably go back to saddle-stitching for the magazine, like the first issues, avoid fumigating the household. CPAOD was also so big for its price that print runs of 5,000 or so were necessary to keep the unit cost, but then that would turn into boxes and boxes of them lying around. I definitely don't want more boxes. I also don't want a huge cover price. We have a lot of experience in making publications, we aren't going to do something that looks completely crappy. Can't do large runs anymore, not only due to lack of money and box space, because I won't be using distributors anymore. I got way too tired of being ripped off by one after another. Pre-orders would be difficult because I haven't been doing this for so many years. Much like the difficulty with contributions. No one's going to believe I'm seriously doing this until I do it. Heck, I won't believe I'm seriously doing this until I do it. ;) Let's face it, I am FLAKY. I put out a magazine with a dark psychology theme because... Well, because I'm a highly stable person who finds that to be an enjoyable hobby. Yeah, that's it. ;) I don't want to switch to high cover prices, I've always kept my publications cheap, because CPAOD has such a fine hand-to- mouth history and really should be affordable for all of my fellow dregs! When the first issue came out, I was still on food stamps but I would sell a CPAOD to someone in the area (Capitol Hill was a good neighborhood for it, I'm not there anymore) or Wax Trax or whatever so I could buy a pack of cigarettes. That's a good life, I think. Then I got carried away and got into huge debt and am still recovering from that. I suppose I'll probably need to start charging shipping, that is enough of a bummer. That's getting way too expensive, and I can't afford to lose money. May need to raise the price a little, but it's going to be as minimal as possible. I really just want to go back to my simply fringey roots, and to being accused of being the diabolical kiddie-corrupting version of L. Ron Hubbard (heh, kind of kidding, I was thinking about that recently because of a project I'm working on). ;) CPAOD was always a zine at heart, just a somewhat fancy one. My tastes haven't really changed, I would still use thick paper and colour on the cover. A lot of things tended to come out looking like crap if they went to a printer anyway. I can remember a lot of pictures looking terrible, and when you just got 5000 copies made you can't say oops and try to fix it. Suppose the main thing about me is that I've always been a weirdo a lot more than a business person. ;) -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From john at johneverson.com Thu Apr 24 14:00:22 2008 From: john at johneverson.com (John Everson) Date: Thu Apr 24 14:00:33 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] CPAOD In-Reply-To: <4810C4C7.6000305@netonecom.net> References: <30145090.1209014547907.JavaMail.root@m03> <4810C4C7.6000305@netonecom.net> Message-ID: <98006100-7C24-4F3F-975C-053D5281F0DE@johneverson.com> I totally understand the DYI mentality - been there, done that! And if that's the way you want to do it -- it's cool. I'm just here to say that the printing method you used in the past is not where the industry necessarily is now. Could be wrong, but I am willing to bet that the printer I use currently could print the last issue of CPAOD at less than $5 a pop, and in small quantities, like 50 or 100 (and their grayscale reproduction is great). And based on what other mags of similar size out there are doing, your cover price on that should have been $9.95. You weren't doing a magazine by the end, you were doing an 8 x 11 "book". On Apr 24, 2008, at 12:35 PM, Jasmine Sailing wrote: > John Everson wrote: >> Nah - announce it, hype it and get pre-orders that cover your costs >> -- and do it right. > > Eh, this is a little magazine that sells for $5-6. Different > world from pricier books. Small order runs + shipping would > cost more than the cover price. Magazines were always fine > for making at home. The last few CPAOD Books were made at > home too, that's more difficult because binding them is so > fumey... So I would probably go back to saddle-stitching > for the magazine, like the first issues, avoid fumigating > the household. > > CPAOD was also so big for its price that print runs of 5,000 > or so were necessary to keep the unit cost, but then that would > turn into boxes and boxes of them lying around. I definitely > don't want more boxes. I also don't want a huge cover price. > We have a lot of experience in making publications, we aren't > going to do something that looks completely crappy. > > Can't do large runs anymore, not only due to lack of money and > box space, because I won't be using distributors anymore. I > got way too tired of being ripped off by one after another. > > Pre-orders would be difficult because I haven't been doing this > for so many years. Much like the difficulty with contributions. > No one's going to believe I'm seriously doing this until I do > it. Heck, I won't believe I'm seriously doing this until I do > it. ;) Let's face it, I am FLAKY. I put out a magazine with > a dark psychology theme because... Well, because I'm a highly > stable person who finds that to be an enjoyable hobby. Yeah, > that's it. ;) > > I don't want to switch to high cover prices, I've always kept > my publications cheap, because CPAOD has such a fine hand-to- > mouth history and really should be affordable for all of my > fellow dregs! When the first issue came out, I was still on > food stamps but I would sell a CPAOD to someone in the area > (Capitol Hill was a good neighborhood for it, I'm not there > anymore) or Wax Trax or whatever so I could buy a pack of > cigarettes. That's a good life, I think. Then I got carried > away and got into huge debt and am still recovering from that. > > I suppose I'll probably need to start charging shipping, that > is enough of a bummer. That's getting way too expensive, and > I can't afford to lose money. May need to raise the price a > little, but it's going to be as minimal as possible. > > I really just want to go back to my simply fringey roots, and > to being accused of being the diabolical kiddie-corrupting > version of L. Ron Hubbard (heh, kind of kidding, I was thinking > about that recently because of a project I'm working on). ;) > CPAOD was always a zine at heart, just a somewhat fancy one. > My tastes haven't really changed, I would still use thick > paper and colour on the cover. A lot of things tended to > come out looking like crap if they went to a printer anyway. > I can remember a lot of pictures looking terrible, and when > you just got 5000 copies made you can't say oops and try to > fix it. > > Suppose the main thing about me is that I've always been a > weirdo a lot more than a business person. ;) > > -- > Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament > Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado > http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo > Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! > Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Cpaod-discuss mailing list > Cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net > http://lists.netonecom.net/mailman/listinfo/cpaod-discuss > From jsailing at netonecom.net Thu Apr 24 15:23:32 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Thu Apr 24 15:23:40 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] CPAOD In-Reply-To: <14262090.1209060590974.JavaMail.root@m03> References: <30145090.1209014547907.JavaMail.root@m03> <4810C4C7.6000305@netonecom.net> <14262090.1209060590974.JavaMail.root@m03> Message-ID: <4810DE34.3080104@netonecom.net> John Everson wrote: > And based on what other mags of similar size out there are doing, your > cover price on that should have been $9.95. You weren't doing a > magazine by the end, you were doing an 8 x 11 "book". Or more. Plenty of similarly sized things sold for more. But I wouldn't have paid that much for it. If you think about it, charge $10 and what does that amount to for someone who works minimum wage? 2 hours of sweating and accumulating grease over a hot burger grill for one magazine. Or for someone who can only scrape up about $20 of fun budget a month, that's half of it right there. Odds are they won't bother, even if they love the contents. Maybe they'll read a friend's copy. The main point in CPAOD was to provide a forum for people and things that couldn't get by in glossier environments, but with a glossier look. ;) So... lots of people who drank $1 draft beer at dive bars, spray-painted graffiti, lived in large #s in a dumpy little apartment that sported one communal table copy of CPAOD plus one safe keeper copy (heh, no, that was the Chuck/Richard/Patrick apartment and they were actually living the high life by having a keeper copy in a bag... I wonder what happened to those guys, they were always fun)... I guess that market appeals to me because it's where I came from. Sure, I can go slum at convention bars with novelists who chug one expensive beer after another... ;) (Actually that was really weird at first, but then I developed quite a distaste for draft beer, got too old for the sickness and splitting headaches it brought with it.) But I'm probably fundamentally city scum at heart. Backwards slumming, heh, yeah that's fun! I'm a full-time slummer now, with my little house and all of my gardening in my yard! But going from my crappy Cap Hill apartments to a WHC or whatever, getting beers bought for me, trading or begging for other peoples' books and magazines because I couldn't ever come up with money to buy anything, that was always interesting. First WHC was funny because I took the train to Stamford. I couldn't sleep for the full 3 days, except a little at the very end when I had some beer and curled up with some guy under a blanket. I got pretty delirious and went on a soap-stealing rampage. Stole a big bag of several bars on the train, stole big bars at the hotel. Geeze, I STILL have some of that soap. Then I rolled in to the hotel, went straight to the bar, got perked up with beer... quickly impressed the horror novelist masses by stealing a beer, whipping a huge knife out of my bag, trying to open the beer with my knife and instead only cutting my finger and bleeding all over the place. Honestly I couldn't even begin to say why some people leap to the conclusion that I am a freaky wacko. ;) Then I got just about black out drunk and lost my bag. The security folks went through it, digging past the stolen beer and the big knife AND the ridiculous amounts of soap, to get to my ID so they could find out who owned the bag and contact me. They didn't say a word about the contents of the bag. *phew* CPAOD #3 had come out right then. The printer wasn't good, lots of defective copies. Then the package that was sent to me at the con hotel got lost in transit. And at the same time (handled via post check-in phone call to Bruce, who was my roommate back then) distributors had sold out and re-ordered. So that was the eternally out of print issue. I think I had to mostly give out issues #1-2 in trade there. That issue had some good things in it, too, so that was a bummer. Ah well. I'll raise the cover price as needed to make it feasible. I'll figure that one when I see what paper prices are like now. I think I need to remember that my brain's always been a bit on the abstract and befuddled side, and that I need to just kind of do whatever happens to work out. Sitting around trying to make things perfect always led to doing nothing. I've always been largely entropic by nature. -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From jsailing at netonecom.net Thu Apr 24 15:46:00 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Thu Apr 24 15:46:08 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Cnidarian Stories Message-ID: <4810E378.6060609@netonecom.net> If the anthology ever works out, someone really should do the future tale of the final Cnidarian Vs Mormon battle. Joe Smith and The Blasted One return as zombies and face off. ;) Except recently I've said multiple times that my choice for my undead career path would be lich. So, yep, The Blasted One is a lich, because one could easily picture interactive chemical preservation somehow amounting to a person becoming a lich. And Joe would be a zombie because, after all, he's just a Mormon. Hell, maybe I should write a prophetic tract about that. I'm sure I'm way over-due for writing a tract anyway. And off- hand I can't seem to recall which one I was planning, no doubt for several years, to write next. It'll probably come to me after a few more years. ;) -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net From chris at robotmandala.com Wed Apr 30 09:43:46 2008 From: chris at robotmandala.com (Chris whY) Date: Wed Apr 30 09:46:39 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] We've lost the man who showed us the Jellyfish References: <4810E378.6060609@netonecom.net> Message-ID: <000f01c8aac8$385e1490$320fa8c0@lappy> Dr. Albert Hofmann died yesterday, at age 102. He was a staunch supporter, to the end, of the reverence of the Jellyfish he helped us all to experience. We'll miss you terribly, Dr. H. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.netonecom.net/pipermail/cpaod-discuss/attachments/20080430/a42ab902/attachment.htm From jsailing at netonecom.net Wed Apr 30 10:34:49 2008 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Wed Apr 30 10:35:00 2008 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] We've lost the man who showed us the Jellyfish In-Reply-To: <1171427.1209563576380.JavaMail.root@m03> References: <4810E378.6060609@netonecom.net> <1171427.1209563576380.JavaMail.root@m03> Message-ID: <48188389.8040403@netonecom.net> Chris whY wrote: > Dr. Albert Hofmann died yesterday, at age 102. Wow, 102. I'm still wondering if I can make it to 40... Some of these people (Burroughs springs to mind) make me wonder if I need to be fusing my cells together with a lot more drugs. Except I seemed to moreso defuse myself with those. ={ What did I do wrong, besides an obvious whole hell of a lot of things... Bummer that he died, but that's quite a life. Hopefully he is swimming with the Jellies out there in the Universe somewhere now. -- Te wo Tsunaide '07: A Pair Go Tournament Saturday, December 1st, in Boulder Colorado http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/PairGo Also home of the Te wo Tsunaide photo archive! Contact: Jasmine Sailing, jsailing@netonecom.net