From freakyzappo at yahoo.com Thu Apr 2 01:08:42 2009 From: freakyzappo at yahoo.com (Laszlo Panaflex) Date: Thu Apr 2 01:08:55 2009 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Ah Pook Message-ID: <398389.40893.qm@web53603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Ah Pook Is Here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C5XuylNFLo Death needs time like a junkie needs junk. From jsailing at netonecom.net Sat Apr 11 11:02:49 2009 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Sat Apr 11 11:02:58 2009 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Bizarre... (Provocativeness) Message-ID: <49E0B119.7020403@netonecom.net> (ACLU article at end.) Can't claim I'd want naked pictures of my daughter going around (I'm sure I'd be a mean Mom and take the cell phone and camera away for a while, enforce a grounding from computers for a while for that matter...), but isn't that kind of a family and school and peers kind of issue rather than a legal one? Unless, of course, some adult took the pictures and distributed them... then the adult should be hanging from the nearest tree, er, having a legal issue. But this only targets the girls in the pictures. Seems a little bizarre... Especially if they can prosecute a girl for sending pictures of herself in a bikini. Isn't it, like, kind of fully legal to be in a bikini on a beach? I never wore a bikini because I was too shy, but at least in my 20s I was out on a sidewalk downtown in very small shorts and a bra in front of cops, and that's legal (equivalent of wearing halter and shorts). The "provocative" thing reminds of the "girls shouldn't wear miniskirts because they are asking for it" kind of mentality. Sure, we follow Amara around with a shotgun when she wears short skirts, but... ;) That's because we don't trust men, not because she can't do it. One of these years maybe they'll all finish figuring it out that it's the ACTING illegally as a result of "provocative" attire and behaviour that needs to be dealt with. Wearing provocative attire... well, try to have common sense that I didn't have as a teen -- don't walk in dark alleys and wind up with chronic back injuries from wrestling drunk guys off and other such obnoxious things. I think that would also apply if you were wearing a full baggy set of sweats, though. (Really, even at this age I can be looking completely dumpy and still have johns trying to pick me up on Colfax... and I tend to opt for looking as dumpy as possible if I need to walk up Colfax. Being female on Colfax is provocative! Should that be prosecuted?) I wonder if this DA is touchy because he has teenage daughters (easy way to feel touchy), or because he himself finds these kinds of pictures too provocative. From the ACLU newsletter: *** *ACLU Sues Pennsylvania County D.A. For Threatening Teenage Girls with Child Pornography Charges *The ACLU filed a lawsuit late last month against the Wyoming County, Pennsylvania, district attorney for threatening three high school girls with child pornography charges over digital photos in which they appear topless or in their underwear -- otherwise called "sexting." "Sexting," the practice of sending nude or semi-nude photos of oneself via cell phones or posting them on the Internet, has become increasingly widespread among teenagers. A recent survey found that approximately 20% of all teenagers have sent or posted nude or semi-nude pictures of themselves. (Sex and Tech: Results from a Survey of Teens and Young Adults, National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy, December 2008.) The district attorney has asserted that the girls were accomplices to the production of child pornography because they allowed themselves to be photographed. The district attorney has not, however, threatened to charge the individuals who distributed the photos. In February 2009, the district attorney sent a letter to the parents of approximately 20 Tunkhannock students, including the ACLU's clients, threatening the students with criminal felony charges if they did not agree to be placed on probation and participate in a counseling program he devised. A course outline indicates that the program will help the girls "[g]ain an understanding of how [their] actions were wrong," "gain an understanding of what it means to be a girl in today's society," and "[i]dentify non-traditional societal and job roles." The letter apparently was sent only to those who were discovered with the photos on their cell phones and the girls shown in the photos --- not the students responsible for distributing the photos. The district attorney told a group of parents and students in February that he has the authority to prosecute girls photographed in underwear, like the ACLU's clients, or even in a bikini on the beach, because the photos are "provocative." The ACLU charges in its lawsuit that the D.A. is misusing his authority by threatening to bring baseless child-pornography charges in order to coerce parents into sending their children to the re-education program and putting them on probation. The lawsuit claims this is a form of unconstitutional retaliation against the parents and children who assert their right not to be bullied into participation. The ACLU is asking the federal court to issue an order prohibiting the district attorney from filing criminal charges against the girls. "Kids should be taught that sharing digitized images of themselves in embarrassing or compromised positions can have bad consequences, but prosecutors should not be using heavy artillery like child-pornography charges to teach them that lesson," said Witold Walczak, Legal Director for the ACLU of Pennsylvania. "These are just kids being irresponsible and careless; they are not criminals and they certainly haven't committed child pornography." *>>Learn* more information about the case. -- @ Jasmine Sailing @ The Blasted One @ jsailing@netonecom.net @ @ Me, I'm still just a heretic. I'm no Apostate. I may have been born a Pagan Heathen, but I only sacrifice man-made things. This seems appropriate in this day and age, when man-made things have overly consumed so much of nature. @ @ http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/jsailing @ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.netonecom.net/pipermail/cpaod-discuss/attachments/20090411/e8298df1/attachment-0001.htm From jsailing at netonecom.net Sat Apr 11 11:07:11 2009 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Sat Apr 11 11:07:20 2009 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Gay Marriage Message-ID: <49E0B21F.3040009@netonecom.net> Before winding up scratching my head over the legality of bikini pictures, I was happy to note that the ruling for Iowa was specifically that you can't let religious opinions have an impact on legislation (Iowa ruling that it is unconstitutional to no allow same sex marriages). I wonder if that'll manage to set a good example anywhere. Especially since it was one of the flat states. ;) -- @ Jasmine Sailing @ The Blasted One @ jsailing@netonecom.net @ @ Me, I'm still just a heretic. I'm no Apostate. I may have been born a Pagan Heathen, but I only sacrifice man-made things. This seems appropriate in this day and age, when man-made things have overly consumed so much of nature. @ @ http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/jsailing @ From ronaldhowerton at comcast.net Sat Apr 11 17:48:16 2009 From: ronaldhowerton at comcast.net (Ron Howerton) Date: Sat Apr 11 17:48:57 2009 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Bizarre... (Provocativeness) In-Reply-To: <49E0B119.7020403@netonecom.net> References: <49E0B119.7020403@netonecom.net> Message-ID: <001601c9baef$394568d0$abd03a70$@net> This is ludicrous! Let's hear it for the ACLU, not only bastion of American freedom, but loathed by all Republicans and conservatives (making them doubly worthy of protection by Cnidarians everywhere)! From: cpaod-discuss-bounces@mailman.netonecom.net [mailto:cpaod-discuss-bounces@mailman.netonecom.net] On Behalf Of Jasmine Sailing Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:03 AM To: CPAOD- Discuss Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Bizarre... (Provocativeness) (ACLU article at end.) Can't claim I'd want naked pictures of my daughter going around (I'm sure I'd be a mean Mom and take the cell phone and camera away for a while, enforce a grounding from computers for a while for that matter...), but isn't that kind of a family and school and peers kind of issue rather than a legal one? Unless, of course, some adult took the pictures and distributed them... then the adult should be hanging from the nearest tree, er, having a legal issue. But this only targets the girls in the pictures. Seems a little bizarre... Especially if they can prosecute a girl for sending pictures of herself in a bikini. Isn't it, like, kind of fully legal to be in a bikini on a beach? I never wore a bikini because I was too shy, but at least in my 20s I was out on a sidewalk downtown in very small shorts and a bra in front of cops, and that's legal (equivalent of wearing halter and shorts). The "provocative" thing reminds of the "girls shouldn't wear miniskirts because they are asking for it" kind of mentality. Sure, we follow Amara around with a shotgun when she wears short skirts, but... ;) That's because we don't trust men, not because she can't do it. One of these years maybe they'll all finish figuring it out that it's the ACTING illegally as a result of "provocative" attire and behaviour that needs to be dealt with. Wearing provocative attire... well, try to have common sense that I didn't have as a teen -- don't walk in dark alleys and wind up with chronic back injuries from wrestling drunk guys off and other such obnoxious things. I think that would also apply if you were wearing a full baggy set of sweats, though. (Really, even at this age I can be looking completely dumpy and still have johns trying to pick me up on Colfax... and I tend to opt for looking as dumpy as possible if I need to walk up Colfax. Being female on Colfax is provocative! Should that be prosecuted?) I wonder if this DA is touchy because he has teenage daughters (easy way to feel touchy), or because he himself finds these kinds of pictures too provocative. >From the ACLU newsletter: *** ACLU Sues Pennsylvania County D.A. For Threatening Teenage Girls with Child Pornography Charges The ACLU filed a lawsuit late last month against the Wyoming County, Pennsylvania, district attorney for threatening three high school girls with child pornography charges over digital photos in which they appear topless or in their underwear -- otherwise called "sexting." "Sexting," the practice of sending nude or semi-nude photos of oneself via cell phones or posting them on the Internet, has become increasingly widespread among teenagers. A recent survey found that approximately 20% of all teenagers have sent or posted nude or semi-nude pictures of themselves. (Sex and Tech: Results from a Survey of Teens and Young Adults, National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy, December 2008.) The district attorney has asserted that the girls were accomplices to the production of child pornography because they allowed themselves to be photographed. The district attorney has not, however, threatened to charge the individuals who distributed the photos. In February 2009, the district attorney sent a letter to the parents of approximately 20 Tunkhannock students, including the ACLU's clients, threatening the students with criminal felony charges if they did not agree to be placed on probation and participate in a counseling program he devised. A course outline indicates that the program will help the girls "[g]ain an understanding of how [their] actions were wrong," "gain an understanding of what it means to be a girl in today's society," and "[i]dentify non-traditional societal and job roles." The letter apparently was sent only to those who were discovered with the photos on their cell phones and the girls shown in the photos - not the students responsible for distributing the photos. The district attorney told a group of parents and students in February that he has the authority to prosecute girls photographed in underwear, like the ACLU's clients, or even in a bikini on the beach, because the photos are "provocative." The ACLU charges in its lawsuit that the D.A. is misusing his authority by threatening to bring baseless child-pornography charges in order to coerce parents into sending their children to the re-education program and putting them on probation. The lawsuit claims this is a form of unconstitutional retaliation against the parents and children who assert their right not to be bullied into participation. The ACLU is asking the federal court to issue an order prohibiting the district attorney from filing criminal charges against the girls. "Kids should be taught that sharing digitized images of themselves in embarrassing or compromised positions can have bad consequences, but prosecutors should not be using heavy artillery like child-pornography charges to teach them that lesson," said Witold Walczak, Legal Director for the ACLU of Pennsylvania. "These are just kids being irresponsible and careless; they are not criminals and they certainly haven't committed child pornography." >>Learn more information about the case. -- @ Jasmine Sailing @ The Blasted One @ jsailing@netonecom.net @ @ Me, I'm still just a heretic. I'm no Apostate. I may have been born a Pagan Heathen, but I only sacrifice man-made things. This seems appropriate in this day and age, when man-made things have overly consumed so much of nature. @ @ http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/jsailing @ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.netonecom.net/pipermail/cpaod-discuss/attachments/20090411/c0f5d458/attachment.htm From ronaldhowerton at comcast.net Sat Apr 11 17:49:58 2009 From: ronaldhowerton at comcast.net (Ron Howerton) Date: Sat Apr 11 17:50:19 2009 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Gay Marriage In-Reply-To: <49E0B21F.3040009@netonecom.net> References: <49E0B21F.3040009@netonecom.net> Message-ID: <001b01c9baef$767c7db0$63757910$@net> Except that now they're talking about changing their constitution to make discrimination legal anyway. Question is, do we want the US Supreme Court ruling on this issue? My guess is they'll dodge the question, but if pressed, would they do the right thing, or the RIGHT thing? -----Original Message----- From: cpaod-discuss-bounces@mailman.netonecom.net [mailto:cpaod-discuss-bounces@mailman.netonecom.net] On Behalf Of Jasmine Sailing Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:07 AM To: CPAOD- Discuss Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Gay Marriage Before winding up scratching my head over the legality of bikini pictures, I was happy to note that the ruling for Iowa was specifically that you can't let religious opinions have an impact on legislation (Iowa ruling that it is unconstitutional to no allow same sex marriages). I wonder if that'll manage to set a good example anywhere. Especially since it was one of the flat states. ;) -- @ Jasmine Sailing @ The Blasted One @ jsailing@netonecom.net @ @ Me, I'm still just a heretic. I'm no Apostate. I may have been born a Pagan Heathen, but I only sacrifice man-made things. This seems appropriate in this day and age, when man-made things have overly consumed so much of nature. @ @ http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/jsailing @ _______________________________________________ Cpaod-discuss mailing list Cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net http://lists.netonecom.net/mailman/listinfo/cpaod-discuss From jsailing at netonecom.net Tue Apr 14 15:30:47 2009 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Tue Apr 14 15:30:59 2009 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] [Fwd: Little Fyodor & Babushka play radio/internet show April 27!!] Message-ID: <49E4E467.5000808@netonecom.net> From: Little Fyodor *MARK YOUR CALENDAR:* ** *Monday, April 27* ** *Little Fyodor & Babushka * ** *play live on the KGNU Kabaret!!!* ** *Hear it live at 88.5 FM in Boulder, 1390 AM in Denver or via **kgnu.org* *from 7 till 8 PM (mountain daylight savings time!).* ** *This performance will celebrate 20 years of Little Fyodor & Babushka and give you a sneak preview of the upcoming Little Fyodor CD (first release of new material in a decade!) called Peace Is Boring!!* **** *It'll also feature a rare live inclusion of two of the guest musicians who appear on the album, Shane Wallace and Scot Livingston.* ** *A special contest will be announced, too....* ** *Hope you tune in and -- ENJOY!!* *LITTLE* * **FYODOR* *!!!* ** -- @ Jasmine Sailing @ The Blasted One @ jsailing@netonecom.net @ @ Me, I'm still just a heretic. I'm no Apostate. I may have been born a Pagan Heathen, but I only sacrifice man-made things. This seems appropriate in this day and age, when man-made things have overly consumed so much of nature. @ @ http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/jsailing @ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.netonecom.net/pipermail/cpaod-discuss/attachments/20090414/c842c4aa/attachment-0001.htm From mont.segur at yahoo.com Tue Apr 14 15:42:00 2009 From: mont.segur at yahoo.com (Montsegur) Date: Tue Apr 14 15:42:08 2009 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] [Fwd: Little Fyodor & Babushka play radio/internet show April 27!!] Message-ID: <936833.16303.qm@web58801.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Heh, I still remember when Little Fyodor asked me to translate the German review of the show. --- On Tue, 4/14/09, Jasmine Sailing wrote: > From: Jasmine Sailing > Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] [Fwd: Little Fyodor & Babushka play radio/internet show April 27!!] > To: "CPAOD- Discuss" > Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 12:30 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > > Little Fyodor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MARK YOUR > CALENDAR: > ? > Monday, > April 27 > ? > Little > Fyodor & > Babushka > ? > play live > on the KGNU > Kabaret!!! > ? > Hear it live at 88.5 FM > in Boulder, > 1390 AM in Denver?or via kgnu.org?from 7 till 8 PM (mountain > daylight savings > time!). > ? > This?performance will > celebrate 20 > years of Little?Fyodor &?Babushka and?give you?a > sneak > preview > of the upcoming Little Fyodor CD (first release of new > material in a > decade!) called Peace Is Boring!! > ? > It'll also?feature a > rare live > inclusion of?two of the guest musicians who appear on the > album, Shane > Wallace and Scot Livingston. > ? > A special?contest will > be announced, > too.... > > ? > Hope you tune in and -- > ENJOY!! > > > > > > LITTLE > FYODOR!!! > ? > > > > > > > > > -- > @ Jasmine Sailing @ The Blasted One @ jsailing@netonecom.net > @ > @ Me, I'm still just a heretic. I'm no > Apostate. I may > have been born a Pagan Heathen, but I only sacrifice > man-made > things. This seems appropriate in this day and age, > when > man-made things have overly consumed so much of nature. > @ > @ http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/jsailing > @ > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > Cpaod-discuss mailing list > Cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net > http://lists.netonecom.net/mailman/listinfo/cpaod-discuss > From tlyon at netonecom.net Tue Apr 14 15:43:01 2009 From: tlyon at netonecom.net (Tom Lyon) Date: Tue Apr 14 15:44:29 2009 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Gay Marriage Message-ID: <20090414194301.9E74115547@sidewinder.netonecom.net> I fail to see the big uproar over same-sex marriages. While it certainly isn't in agreement with my core values, attempting to force an arbitrary set of values on others just seems too far out there. Too many do-gooders, with good intentions, end up compromising freedoms for everyone. Tom On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:07:36 -0400, Jasmine Sailing (jsailing@netonecom.net) wrote: > Before winding up scratching my head over the legality of > bikini pictures, I was happy to note that the ruling for > Iowa was specifically that you can't let religious opinions > have an impact on legislation (Iowa ruling that it is > unconstitutional to no allow same sex marriages). > > I wonder if that'll manage to set a good example anywhere. > Especially since it was one of the flat states. ;) > > -- > @ Jasmine Sailing @ The Blasted One @ jsailing@netonecom.net @ > @ Me, I'm still just a heretic. I'm no Apostate. I may > have been born a Pagan Heathen, but I only sacrifice man-made > things. This seems appropriate in this day and age, when > man-made things have overly consumed so much of nature. @ > @ Cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net > http://lists.netonecom.net/mailman/listinfo/cpaod-discuss -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.netonecom.net/pipermail/cpaod-discuss/attachments/20090414/9a5ae4a6/attachment.htm From tlyon at netonecom.net Tue Apr 14 15:47:16 2009 From: tlyon at netonecom.net (Tom Lyon) Date: Tue Apr 14 15:48:43 2009 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Bizarre... (Provocativeness) Message-ID: <20090414194716.1757515553@sidewinder.netonecom.net> Agreed, and even us conservatives despise conservatives. That's because there are no *true* conservatives left. The ACLU is the closest thing to conservatism out there anymore, I think. Kind of ironic, no? Tom On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:49:26 -0400, Ron Howerton (ronaldhowerton@comcast.net) wrote: > This is ludicrous! Let's hear it for the ACLU, not only bastion of American freedom, but loathed by all Republicans and conservatives (making them doubly worthy of protection by Cnidarians everywhere)! -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.netonecom.net/pipermail/cpaod-discuss/attachments/20090414/0df0e419/attachment.htm From ronaldhowerton at comcast.net Tue Apr 14 18:38:23 2009 From: ronaldhowerton at comcast.net (Ron Howerton) Date: Tue Apr 14 18:38:36 2009 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Gay Marriage In-Reply-To: <20090414194301.9E74115547@sidewinder.netonecom.net> References: <20090414194301.9E74115547@sidewinder.netonecom.net> Message-ID: <001201c9bd51$b8df91b0$2a9eb510$@net> The road to hell is paved with "good" intentions. From: cpaod-discuss-bounces@mailman.netonecom.net [mailto:cpaod-discuss-bounces@mailman.netonecom.net] On Behalf Of Tom Lyon Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 1:43 PM To: cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net Subject: Re: [Cpaod-discuss] Gay Marriage I fail to see the big uproar over same-sex marriages. While it certainly isn't in agreement with my core values, attempting to force an arbitrary set of values on others just seems too far out there. Too many do-gooders, with good intentions, end up compromising freedoms for everyone. Tom On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:07:36 -0400, Jasmine Sailing (jsailing@netonecom.net) wrote: Before winding up scratching my head over the legality of bikini pictures, I was happy to note that the ruling for Iowa was specifically that you can't let religious opinions have an impact on legislation (Iowa ruling that it is unconstitutional to no allow same sex marriages). I wonder if that'll manage to set a good example anywhere. Especially since it was one of the flat states. ;) -- @ Jasmine Sailing @ The Blasted One @ jsailing@netonecom.net @ @ Me, I'm still just a heretic. I'm no Apostate. I may have been born a Pagan Heathen, but I only sacrifice man-made things. This seems appropriate in this day and age, when man-made things have overly consumed so much of nature. @ @ Cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net http://lists.netonecom.net/mailman/listinfo/cpaod-discuss -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.netonecom.net/pipermail/cpaod-discuss/attachments/20090414/02ce6f56/attachment.htm From jsailing at netonecom.net Tue Apr 14 19:07:17 2009 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Tue Apr 14 19:07:34 2009 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Gay Marriage In-Reply-To: <14850080.1239748766612.JavaMail.root@n13> References: <20090414194301.9E74115547@sidewinder.netonecom.net> <14850080.1239748766612.JavaMail.root@n13> Message-ID: <49E51725.70700@netonecom.net> Ron Howerton wrote: > > The road to hell is paved with ?good? intentions. > Yeah... I just sit here harbouring grudges and endlessly obsessing over them. That's perfectly harmless. ;) (Good to see Tom et al still alive and functioning. I'm off to class, so I'm just making a quick stupid comment. More to say, when I find a moment...) -- @ Jasmine Sailing @ The Blasted One @ jsailing@netonecom.net @ @ Me, I'm still just a heretic. I'm no Apostate. I may have been born a Pagan Heathen, but I only sacrifice man-made things. This seems appropriate in this day and age, when man-made things have overly consumed so much of nature. @ @ http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/jsailing @ From jsailing at netonecom.net Wed Apr 15 11:28:59 2009 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Wed Apr 15 11:29:31 2009 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] June 8: World Oceans Day Message-ID: <49E5FD3B.9030200@netonecom.net> June 8 is now officially World Oceans Day (the UN finally designated it). Be sure to revere your oceans and jellyfish and sea critters of all sorts. => (Soooo insanely busy this week... pardon the very brief posts.) -- @ Jasmine Sailing @ The Blasted One @ jsailing@netonecom.net @ @ Me, I'm still just a heretic. I'm no Apostate. I may have been born a Pagan Heathen, but I only sacrifice man-made things. This seems appropriate in this day and age, when man-made things have overly consumed so much of nature. @ @ http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/jsailing @ From mont.segur at yahoo.com Wed Apr 15 12:39:50 2009 From: mont.segur at yahoo.com (Montsegur) Date: Wed Apr 15 12:39:57 2009 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] June 8: World Oceans Day Message-ID: <822916.68557.qm@web58802.mail.re1.yahoo.com> A few years ago I visited Crete. I was puzzled why fish cost so much on an island. I was told the Greeks had so systematically fished out their seas that all fish had to be imported from other nations. Tough-assed old "lamb" (read: rams) was to be had at good prices, though --- On Wed, 4/15/09, Jasmine Sailing wrote: > From: Jasmine Sailing > Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] June 8: World Oceans Day > To: "CPAOD- Discuss" > Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 8:28 AM > June 8 is now officially World Oceans > Day (the UN finally > designated it). > > Be sure to revere your oceans and jellyfish and sea > critters > of all sorts. => > > (Soooo insanely busy this week... pardon the very brief > posts.) > > -- > @ Jasmine Sailing @ The Blasted One @ jsailing@netonecom.net > @ > ???@ Me, I'm still just a heretic.? I'm > no Apostate.? I may > have been born a Pagan Heathen, but I only sacrifice > man-made > ???things.? This seems appropriate in > this day and age, when > ???man-made things have overly consumed so > much of nature. @ > ?????@ http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/jsailing @ > > > _______________________________________________ > Cpaod-discuss mailing list > Cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net > http://lists.netonecom.net/mailman/listinfo/cpaod-discuss > From jsailing at netonecom.net Thu Apr 16 12:40:31 2009 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Thu Apr 16 12:40:46 2009 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Great Turtle Race Message-ID: <49E75F7F.6050700@netonecom.net> You can track the leatherback sea turtle race here: http://www.greatturtlerace.com I wasn't quite going to say WATCH the race. ;) It's fun to see those turtles flop across the sand and swim and make your bets on who'll get there first... but perhaps not all day for as long as it takes. ;) (I am, of course, coughing and looking away from any jellyfish eating. At least it isn't Jellyfish eating.) If I had a moment, I would figure out who I'm rooting for. I think I may have a moment tomorrow... -- @ Jasmine Sailing @ The Blasted One @ jsailing@netonecom.net @ @ Me, I'm still just a heretic. I'm no Apostate. I may have been born a Pagan Heathen, but I only sacrifice man-made things. This seems appropriate in this day and age, when man-made things have overly consumed so much of nature. @ @ http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/jsailing @ From chris at robotmandala.com Fri Apr 17 12:41:54 2009 From: chris at robotmandala.com (Chris whY) Date: Fri Apr 17 12:42:04 2009 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] A fairly typical morning/breakfast of champions References: <49E75F7F.6050700@netonecom.net> Message-ID: <001d01c9bf7b$6b0ac3c0$0a0fa8c0@ceres> So, we are fighting a nasty fungal infestation in our house. We borrowed an industrial-strength ozone generator to work on systemic disinfection of our house. Last night, we evacuated for three hours, and set the machine on a timer, intending for it to shut off a half-hour before we got home, open the doors and windows and sit in the car for another half-hour to dissipate the ozone, and proceed from there. The timer didn't work. Since it was my dumpster-dive timer that failed, and I am the most accustomed to ozone due to Tesla coil hobbies, I took responsibility and came in to shut it off. Held my breath. No biggie. But then one of the cats darted in, and I came back in to attempt to retrieve her. Two or 3 minutes of breathing strong ozone, which damages the respiratory system quickly, and can be deadly. Fortunately, I got out with only minor respiratory irritation and slightly burning eyes. Used a bronchial anti-inflammotory inhaler. Worked nicely. Aired the joint out pretty well. Had a very typical and fulminant argument with my fiancee, as has been the usual every day for the last couple weeks. Went to bed, with only one pillow (I normally use 3 or 4 to keep my bony misaligned self comfortable enough to get more than 30 minutes of non-REM sleep - I have an atypical sleep disorder which causes me to get very little slow-wave/deep sleep - oddly enough, the prescription amphetamines have improved my sleep-pattern a lot) and only my leather jacket and a tiny light blanket to keep warm, since our pillows and blankets are in the process of being disinfected. Froze my ass off all night since it takes quite a while to heat the house back up from freezing temperatures. Woke up to her usual pessimism, insults, and suicide threats as she stormed out to go to work. And am enjoying my usual breakfast of cigarettes, coffee, toast, amphetamines, and valium (note: the last two of those are under legal prescription by a doctor for legitimate medical reasons.) Went to my secret stash outside the house for a toke of weed and a sip of vodka. (Those are not allowed to be on the premises, for important reasons extending beyond me and my bad habits.) All this is but the variation on the theme. Many of the details are unique. Several are ubiquitous. However, it's "always something" and feels like more and more of the same to me. (I could write a litany of failure and distress, if I wanted to go into pessimism in detail.) But as always, I am an optimist at heart. I know it'll get better. Maybe next time we all leave, a renegade anti-theif will bring and pop open a tank of nitrous oxide in here instead of an ozone generator on a timer that doesn't work. (Kinda like that guy in the movie Brazil, only with more/better drugs.) Maybe someone will find my off-premises stash and add a few Percocet and replace the shitty vodka with good single-malt scotch and not take anything else from it. Volunteers? -St. whY From chris at robotmandala.com Fri Apr 17 14:57:55 2009 From: chris at robotmandala.com (Chris whY) Date: Fri Apr 17 14:58:10 2009 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] A fairly typical morning/breakfast of champions References: <49E75F7F.6050700@netonecom.net> <001d01c9bf7b$6b0ac3c0$0a0fa8c0@ceres> Message-ID: <00a401c9bf8e$6b523260$0a0fa8c0@ceres> A TV news reporter just said she was at the intersection of Speer and Logan. With my brain problems and preoccupations, it took almost a minute to figure out that she didn't say "at the intersection of fear and loathing." LOL From jsailing at netonecom.net Tue Apr 21 11:08:32 2009 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Tue Apr 21 11:09:00 2009 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Ballard RIP Message-ID: <49EDE170.2030102@netonecom.net> *sniffle* Another of my favourites gone. At least he made it to a decent age old. Would be nice if I can last that long. I had meant to post this yesterday, after Bruce heard about it and mentioned it. Got reminded this morning by Ron sending this link: http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/books/04/20/ballard.obit/index.html (All that really mentions is movies. I never saw Empire of the Sun. I didn't like Crash. It took the best erotic novel and turned it into... porn... bleh. I always forgive Cronenberg because of Videodrome and Dead Ringers, though.) Why no one else in this chain can post, I dunno... ;) (Bruce was always a big Ballard fanboy, he just wasn't ever much of a poster.) Back when I thought I was going to have a book or two out, Ballard was the only person I could think of that I really really would've wanted a blurb from. Too late. ={ Ah well, I never really wrote anything anyone would want to read anyway. Which is, I guess, why I stopped writing stories. ={ -- @ Jasmine Sailing @ The Blasted One @ jsailing@netonecom.net @ @ Me, I'm still just a heretic. I'm no Apostate. I may have been born a Pagan Heathen, but I only sacrifice man-made things. This seems appropriate in this day and age, when man-made things have overly consumed so much of nature. @ @ http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/jsailing @ From toxbs at yahoo.com Tue Apr 21 18:10:10 2009 From: toxbs at yahoo.com (Bruce Young) Date: Tue Apr 21 18:10:24 2009 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Ballard RIP Message-ID: <276298.83006.qm@web31505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I still can't walk by an empty swimming pool without thinking of him... Bruce "Pool Boy" Young --- On Tue, 4/21/09, Jasmine Sailing wrote: From: Jasmine Sailing Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Ballard RIP To: "CPAOD- Discuss" Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 9:08 AM *sniffle*? Another of my favourites gone.? At least he made it to a decent age old.? Would be nice if I can last that long. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.netonecom.net/pipermail/cpaod-discuss/attachments/20090421/b75c8c37/attachment.htm From jsailing at netonecom.net Thu Apr 23 11:10:00 2009 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Thu Apr 23 11:10:31 2009 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Bald Eagle nest web cam Message-ID: <49F084C8.2030104@netonecom.net> In Stillwater, Oklahoma (my Mom's home town). http://www.suttoncenter.org/eaglecam.html I saw a bald eagle nest here once (Turkey Creek Canyon), but only from a distance... -- @ Jasmine Sailing @ The Blasted One @ jsailing@netonecom.net @ @ Me, I'm still just a heretic. I'm no Apostate. I may have been born a Pagan Heathen, but I only sacrifice man-made things. This seems appropriate in this day and age, when man-made things have overly consumed so much of nature. @ @ http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/jsailing @ From avantpop at hotmail.com Thu Apr 23 12:15:37 2009 From: avantpop at hotmail.com (Mike Hemmingson) Date: Thu Apr 23 12:15:54 2009 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Bald Eagle nest web cam In-Reply-To: <49F084C8.2030104@netonecom.net> References: <49F084C8.2030104@netonecom.net> Message-ID: Well at least there is something in Stillwater, OK. Whta bout Movingwater, OK? Dirtywater, OK? Michael Hemmingson > Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:10:00 -0600 > From: jsailing@netonecom.net > To: Cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net > CC: > Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Bald Eagle nest web cam > > In Stillwater, Oklahoma (my Mom's home town). > http://www.suttoncenter.org/eaglecam.html > > I saw a bald eagle nest here once (Turkey Creek Canyon), > but only from a distance... > > _______________________________________________ > Cpaod-discuss mailing list > Cpaod-discuss@mailman.netonecom.net > http://lists.netonecom.net/mailman/listinfo/cpaod-discuss _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail?: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates2_042009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.netonecom.net/pipermail/cpaod-discuss/attachments/20090423/63fbe629/attachment.htm From jsailing at netonecom.net Thu Apr 23 15:01:05 2009 From: jsailing at netonecom.net (Jasmine Sailing) Date: Thu Apr 23 15:02:05 2009 Subject: [Cpaod-discuss] Bald Eagle nest web cam In-Reply-To: <31701975.1240504257835.JavaMail.root@n13> References: <49F084C8.2030104@netonecom.net> <31701975.1240504257835.JavaMail.root@n13> Message-ID: <49F0BAF1.1000806@netonecom.net> Mike Hemmingson wrote: > Well at least there is something in Stillwater, OK. Stillwater's actually gotten rather big since I was a kid. I blame the university, of course. That was the only thing that could've caused the sprawl... But, y'know, they had Garth Brooks. ;) Bruce has a Stillwater memory from his wild youth (eg upper teens). The fuzzy grey fledgling just flopped around on the web cam. Action! Better action than all of the wind-buffeting of feathers that I was watching earlier! I was just going to forward this to Amara and then thought "Hrm. Someone other than me must like raptors...". (Still wondering...) Last year we got to see tons of them up close, including bald and golden eagles, at the Birds of Prey sanctuary kind of near Lethbridge in Canada. I took pictures of everything. We also have photos of us holding the Great Horned Owl named Gordon. Amara was already looking forward to telling Gordon about the trip, but then was even more excited about telling him she held the Owl Gordon. Perhaps the most exciting moment was being chased by a giant flock of white ducks, though. ;) > Whta bout Movingwater, OK? It's all just Stagnant Water, Oklahoma. Believe me, I have experienced the bugs there plenty of times. Really sucks to be a smoker in rural southern Oklahoma. You turn on the porch light, step outside, and next thing you know you're one big shambling bug mound. (Ok, insect mound for people who want to be technically accurate. Probably not many of them are actual bugs.) I'm just used to Colorado, where that strange water substance doesn't exist and therefore our insect populations are not so notable. Except for the occasional wasp, moth, or grasshopper invasions. We don't have quite as many wasps as Utah, fortunately. They can stick with eating the Mormons. I grow mantids for fun and for little problems like that, anyway. -- @ Jasmine Sailing @ The Blasted One @ jsailing@netonecom.net @ @ Me, I'm still just a heretic. I'm no Apostate. I may have been born a Pagan Heathen, but I only sacrifice man-made things. This seems appropriate in this day and age, when man-made things have overly consumed so much of nature. @ @ http://cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/jsailing @